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Notice Telus is issuing Huawei routers to new households here in Canada. Telus, Bell, Rogers - the 3 monopolies here on internet - means you could have about a

Notice Telus is issuing Huawei routers to new households here in Canada. Telus, Bell, Rogers - the 3 monopolies here on internet - means you could have about a third or more of the country transitioning to Chinese hardware; that is a lot. As a Canadian citizen, I urge Canada to snub Huawei too. Doing business with businesses based in China for any reason should be met with extreme criticism simply based on the human rights atrocities that are happening there all the time; not to mention Chinese government's dismantling of free speech in Hong Kong [0] and its continued aggression towards the independent and separate country of Taiwan [1]. China's businesses should fix China's government before they expect to be rewarded with lucrative international deals to the scale that Telus (and Apple, et all) is awarding them. https://www.hongkongfp.com/2018/10/14/beijing-taking-hong-kong-back-100-years-says-baggio-leung-new-convener-pro-independence-group-hknf/ https://www.hongkongfp.com/2018/10/14/beijing-taking-hong-ko... https://www.hongkongfp.com/2018/10/11/exclusive-beijing-tells-foreign-consulates-hong-kong-refrain-attending-taiwan-national-day-events/ https://www.hongkongfp.com/2018/10/11/exclusive-beijing-tell...

prolikewh0a 8y ago
Based on all of that, you shouldn't be doing business with the USA either.
- azinman2 8y ago
  US isn’t doing anything like what China is doing with the Uyghurs.
  - Leary 8y ago
    The US just bomb Muslims with drones instead, much more humane.
    - stickfigure 8y ago
      Scale is a significant differentiating factor.
      - discardable_dan 8y ago
        The US also imprisons 1 in every 20 African Americans.
      - dragonwriter 8y ago
        Yes, the US campaign covers a much larger area, the Chinese one much more localized.
      - chongli 8y ago
        Not to mention intent. The US is ostensibly targeting those drones to attack individuals that their intelligence apparatus has identified as hostile. We can talk about the ethical and methodological problems with this approach, that's fine. But China's operation appears to have the goal of wiping out Uygher culture and forcibly stripping them of their religious practices. This is all-out assault on the autonomy and dignity of an entire ethnic group. The scariest thing to me is that it might actually work[1]. [1] https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/zhukov/wp-content/uploads/sites/140/2017/10/udu_v1.pdf https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/zhukov/wp-content/uploads/sites/...
shittyadmin 8y ago
Rogers already uses Hitron modems and has for many years, also Chinese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitron
jtl999 8y ago
Which Huawei devices is Telus deploying? I have Telus FTTP in Vancouver and was issued a Nokia ONT and a Actiontec router (which I only use for the IPTV boxes) I know some of their cellular hardware is Huawei. Bell is obsessed with Huawei last I checked.
nullnilvoid 8y ago
As a Canadian citizen myself, I firmly urge fellow Canadians to have their own independent thinking and policies. Canada should not be manipulated by foreign politicians. This is blatant interference of Canada's internal affairs by foreign politicians. If the US wants to fight China, Canada should not side with either. It is our best interest to stay neutral.
microcolonel 8y ago
> ...Telus, Bell, Rogers - the 3 monopolies here on internet... You're missing Cogeco, Beanfield, Vidéotron, and loads of others. The market for integrated telcos in Canada is reasonably competitive, at least where costs are justified. P.S. by definition three competitors (even if only, say, two are usually active in a given area) does not a monopoly make.
thaumasiotes 8y ago
> Doing business with businesses based in China for any reason should be met with extreme criticism simply based on the human rights atrocities that are happening there all the time Ah, "let's punish the people of China for getting oppressed by their government", the strategy that made Cuba what it is today.

prolikewh0a 8y ago

Based on all of that, you shouldn't be doing business with the USA either.

azinman2 8y ago
US isn’t doing anything like what China is doing with the Uyghurs.
- Leary 8y ago
  The US just bomb Muslims with drones instead, much more humane.
  - stickfigure 8y ago
    Scale is a significant differentiating factor.
    - discardable_dan 8y ago
      The US also imprisons 1 in every 20 African Americans.
    - dragonwriter 8y ago
      Yes, the US campaign covers a much larger area, the Chinese one much more localized.
    - chongli 8y ago
      Not to mention intent. The US is ostensibly targeting those drones to attack individuals that their intelligence apparatus has identified as hostile. We can talk about the ethical and methodological problems with this approach, that's fine. But China's operation appears to have the goal of wiping out Uygher culture and forcibly stripping them of their religious practices. This is all-out assault on the autonomy and dignity of an entire ethnic group. The scariest thing to me is that it might actually work[1]. [1] https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/zhukov/wp-content/uploads/sites/140/2017/10/udu_v1.pdf https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/zhukov/wp-content/uploads/sites/...

shittyadmin 8y ago

Rogers already uses Hitron modems and has for many years, also Chinese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitron

jtl999 8y ago

Which Huawei devices is Telus deploying? I have Telus FTTP in Vancouver and was issued a Nokia ONT and a Actiontec router (which I only use for the IPTV boxes) I know some of their cellular hardware is Huawei. Bell is obsessed with Huawei last I checked.

nullnilvoid 8y ago

As a Canadian citizen myself, I firmly urge fellow Canadians to have their own independent thinking and policies. Canada should not be manipulated by foreign politicians. This is blatant interference of Canada's internal affairs by foreign politicians. If the US wants to fight China, Canada should not side with either. It is our best interest to stay neutral.

microcolonel 8y ago

> ...Telus, Bell, Rogers - the 3 monopolies here on internet... You're missing Cogeco, Beanfield, Vidéotron, and loads of others. The market for integrated telcos in Canada is reasonably competitive, at least where costs are justified. P.S. by definition three competitors (even if only, say, two are usually active in a given area) does not a monopoly make.

thaumasiotes 8y ago

> Doing business with businesses based in China for any reason should be met with extreme criticism simply based on the human rights atrocities that are happening there all the time Ah, "let's punish the people of China for getting oppressed by their government", the strategy that made Cuba what it is today.