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Imagined the shitstorm if someone went around taking picture of collage-aged girls passed out on the pavement, and published them it in a book..... Yes, they h

Imagined the shitstorm if someone went around taking picture of collage-aged girls passed out on the pavement, and published them it in a book..... Yes, they have passed out in public. But I still think people have some right to privacy.

justtopost 8y ago
I am all for privacy, but public is public. Are you suggesting women somehow deserve more dignity than men? Or just that our public perception is skewed? I find your post confusing. While an appeal to privacy for the homeless makes sense, these men have (hypothetically) a choice to go home, or elsewhere, even if inconvient. I realize the article is hinting that the choice is not as voluntary as they would perfer, but that is a very different set of value judgements.
- stef25 8y ago
  The Guardian gleefully posts anything poking fun or criticism at men but doing the same to women is totally off limits. OP is totally right in that sense. Even above the fold of their homepage they usually have one or two pieces about social justice. Then there's a steady stream of columnists that publish a daily stream of outrage pieces. It's almost not a newspaper anymore but more of an activist-paper.
- GarrisonPrime 8y ago
  I think they are suggesting that the invasion of privacy going on here would be more obvious to us if the images were of women. And your implication that these men don’t deserve for us to respect their dignity is absurd. Making choices you don’t agree with doesn’t invalidate their humanity.
aklemm 8y ago
Imagine the shitstorm if drunk men were assaulted at the rates drunk women are.
bliblah 8y ago
Don't know how the law works in Japan, but public streets are well...public spaces. In most places you need to have a reasonable expectation of privacy before being able to use this defense. Also this is an effective way to name and shame people against acting in such a way in public if you wish to do so. Some would argue that if you wish to avoid such a situation you should hold your drink better. Though that could just be passing the blame on the victim. Note that this is not my personal opinion on the matter.
- mnky9800n 8y ago
  It's basically illegal to take a picture of a person without their permission. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2017/01/22/how-tos/recording-public-places-japan-privacy-portrait-rights-come-play/#.W8TV2-mxU0M https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2017/01/22/how-tos/re...

justtopost 8y ago

I am all for privacy, but public is public. Are you suggesting women somehow deserve more dignity than men? Or just that our public perception is skewed? I find your post confusing. While an appeal to privacy for the homeless makes sense, these men have (hypothetically) a choice to go home, or elsewhere, even if inconvient. I realize the article is hinting that the choice is not as voluntary as they would perfer, but that is a very different set of value judgements.

stef25 8y ago
The Guardian gleefully posts anything poking fun or criticism at men but doing the same to women is totally off limits. OP is totally right in that sense. Even above the fold of their homepage they usually have one or two pieces about social justice. Then there's a steady stream of columnists that publish a daily stream of outrage pieces. It's almost not a newspaper anymore but more of an activist-paper.
GarrisonPrime 8y ago
I think they are suggesting that the invasion of privacy going on here would be more obvious to us if the images were of women. And your implication that these men don’t deserve for us to respect their dignity is absurd. Making choices you don’t agree with doesn’t invalidate their humanity.

aklemm 8y ago

Imagine the shitstorm if drunk men were assaulted at the rates drunk women are.

bliblah 8y ago

Don't know how the law works in Japan, but public streets are well...public spaces. In most places you need to have a reasonable expectation of privacy before being able to use this defense. Also this is an effective way to name and shame people against acting in such a way in public if you wish to do so. Some would argue that if you wish to avoid such a situation you should hold your drink better. Though that could just be passing the blame on the victim. Note that this is not my personal opinion on the matter.

mnky9800n 8y ago
It's basically illegal to take a picture of a person without their permission. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2017/01/22/how-tos/recording-public-places-japan-privacy-portrait-rights-come-play/#.W8TV2-mxU0M https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2017/01/22/how-tos/re...