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The question is not whether you use the word in the workplace. The question is whether, if you have used one of those words anywhere, ever, should your life be

The question is not whether you use the word in the workplace. The question is whether, if you have used one of those words anywhere, ever, should your life be destroyed?

erikpukinskis 8y ago
Do you have an example of someone who used words like that outside the workplace and had their life destroyed?
- paulddraper 8y ago
  Paula Deen
  - erikpukinskis 8y ago
    Seems a little dramatic to say Paula Deen’s life is “destroyed”.
    - paulddraper 8y ago
      No, she was not literally murdered. She was blackballed. Someone had accused Dean of saying the N word, which she denied but then admitted to using it years ago. In a matter of weeks, Food Network, J.C. Penney, Kmart, Sears, Target, Walmart and her book publisher all dropped her, despite her apologies for her confession. Jimmy Carter said, "I think she has been punished, perhaps overly severely, for her honesty in admitting it and for the use of the word in the distant past."
      - erikpukinskis 8y ago
        Well I guess “should your life be destroyed?“ wasn’t the question after all then. I wish people would write clearly on this subject instead of using meaningless hyperbolic language. It’s an important subject.
        paulddraper 8y ago
        Nor do I think the question is whether "rapists should be prosecuted".
  - LyndsySimon 8y ago
    She has a restaurant opening near me next spring. I suspect it will do very well.
- rendall 8y ago
  Donald Sterling I mean, define 'destroyed': he was fined $2.5M and forced to sell the LA Clippers for $2B. That kind of 'destroyed' I would probably be able to live with. Still, as stated in 'Slate Star Codex' "... banned for life from an industry he’s been in for thirty-five years, banned from ever going to basketball games, forced to sell his property against his will, publicly condemned by everyone from the President of the United States on down, denounced in every media outlet from the national news to the Podunk Herald-Tribune, and got people all over the Internet gloating about how pleased they are that he will die soon" Is that 'destroyed'? Depends on his state of mind, I guess. However, people who thought this was excessive and said so publicly were fired. Is that 'destroyed'? Dunno. https://web.archive.org/web/20140504023509/http://www.gamerevolution.com/manifesto/turtle-rock-community-manager-understandably-fired-for-donald-sterling-tweets-25601 https://web.archive.org/web/20140504023509/http://www.gamere...

The question is not whether you use the word in the workplace. The question is whether, if you have used one of those words anywhere, ever, should your life be destroyed?

erikpukinskis 8y ago

Do you have an example of someone who used words like that outside the workplace and had their life destroyed?

paulddraper 8y ago
Paula Deen
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  Seems a little dramatic to say Paula Deen’s life is “destroyed”.
  - paulddraper 8y ago
    No, she was not literally murdered. She was blackballed. Someone had accused Dean of saying the N word, which she denied but then admitted to using it years ago. In a matter of weeks, Food Network, J.C. Penney, Kmart, Sears, Target, Walmart and her book publisher all dropped her, despite her apologies for her confession. Jimmy Carter said, "I think she has been punished, perhaps overly severely, for her honesty in admitting it and for the use of the word in the distant past."
    - erikpukinskis 8y ago
      Well I guess “should your life be destroyed?“ wasn’t the question after all then. I wish people would write clearly on this subject instead of using meaningless hyperbolic language. It’s an important subject.
      - paulddraper 8y ago
        Nor do I think the question is whether "rapists should be prosecuted".
- LyndsySimon 8y ago
  She has a restaurant opening near me next spring. I suspect it will do very well.
rendall 8y ago
Donald Sterling I mean, define 'destroyed': he was fined $2.5M and forced to sell the LA Clippers for $2B. That kind of 'destroyed' I would probably be able to live with. Still, as stated in 'Slate Star Codex' "... banned for life from an industry he’s been in for thirty-five years, banned from ever going to basketball games, forced to sell his property against his will, publicly condemned by everyone from the President of the United States on down, denounced in every media outlet from the national news to the Podunk Herald-Tribune, and got people all over the Internet gloating about how pleased they are that he will die soon" Is that 'destroyed'? Depends on his state of mind, I guess. However, people who thought this was excessive and said so publicly were fired. Is that 'destroyed'? Dunno. https://web.archive.org/web/20140504023509/http://www.gamerevolution.com/manifesto/turtle-rock-community-manager-understandably-fired-for-donald-sterling-tweets-25601 https://web.archive.org/web/20140504023509/http://www.gamere...