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> This is so wild, I'm thinking back to 2005-2007 when people were doing everything possible to get on Facebook Not everyone. Everyone I knew shunned facebook,

> This is so wild, I'm thinking back to 2005-2007 when people were doing everything possible to get on Facebook Not everyone. Everyone I knew shunned facebook, laughed at myspace, looked down on youtube, you get the idea. For us, it was so odd that people would use their real identities and put their lives online. I think that period marked the true shift of the internet from a tech oriented population to the "normie" population. I've never had a facebook, myspace or youtube account and never will. > Now there are so many attacks on the company politically, technically, and socially that I wonder if Facebook will be able to recover its trust with the community? There were similar attacks on social media back then too but not as vocal or widespread. Facebook, instagram and whatsapp are still growing so I'm guessing they will be fine. https://www.statista.com/statistics/264810/number-of-monthly-active-facebook-users-worldwide/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/264810/number-of-monthly... Though I think facebook ( and the nytimes for that matter ) are toxic useless enterprises that humanity would be better off without, I don't think it or the nytimes are going anywhere anytime soon. Also, keep in mind that facebook is banned in china and if zuckerberg can get his foot in the door, they may have another decade of significant growth. https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-visits-china-as-facebook-eyes-realistic-opportunity-to-enter-country-in-2018-2017-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-visits-china...

w1nst0nsm1th 8y ago
Facebook should be replaced by a public service providing the same functions. User would be required to signup with their id card ; and in case they screw up, would be hold accountable. It would allow to purge the network from a lot of shady practices, from users as well as advertisers and the organisation itself. It makes no sens a private company owns the public sphere and the public discourse.
JoshMnem 8y ago
> I've never had a facebook, myspace or youtube account and never will. Nice work. I don't know why people are voting you down.
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  Because people who brag about not using a particular website come across as unbearably smug.
  - JoshMnem 8y ago
    I think they are just leading by example.
    - salvar 8y ago
      Well, saying things like "I think that period marked the true shift of the internet from a tech oriented population to the "normie" population" as if it's bad that other people get to enjoy the Internet, comes off as pretty damn smug.
    - PhasmaFelis 8y ago
      Case in point. Preferring different methods of communication doesn't make you smarter or a leader. It means you have different preferences, nothing more.
      - JoshMnem 8y ago
        I think it means that someone achieved what most of us wish we could have achieved: not getting dragged into getting used by social networks that mine our data and use it to manipulate our behavior. Seeing that someone has successfully done it increases the chances that other people will be able to do it. Most people don't use those sites out of educated choice -- they got manipulated into using them and would want to leave if they knew what the sites were doing.

w1nst0nsm1th 8y ago

Facebook should be replaced by a public service providing the same functions. User would be required to signup with their id card ; and in case they screw up, would be hold accountable. It would allow to purge the network from a lot of shady practices, from users as well as advertisers and the organisation itself. It makes no sens a private company owns the public sphere and the public discourse.

JoshMnem 8y ago

> I've never had a facebook, myspace or youtube account and never will. Nice work. I don't know why people are voting you down.

PhasmaFelis 8y ago
Because people who brag about not using a particular website come across as unbearably smug.
- JoshMnem 8y ago
  I think they are just leading by example.
  - salvar 8y ago
    Well, saying things like "I think that period marked the true shift of the internet from a tech oriented population to the "normie" population" as if it's bad that other people get to enjoy the Internet, comes off as pretty damn smug.
  - PhasmaFelis 8y ago
    Case in point. Preferring different methods of communication doesn't make you smarter or a leader. It means you have different preferences, nothing more.
    - JoshMnem 8y ago
      I think it means that someone achieved what most of us wish we could have achieved: not getting dragged into getting used by social networks that mine our data and use it to manipulate our behavior. Seeing that someone has successfully done it increases the chances that other people will be able to do it. Most people don't use those sites out of educated choice -- they got manipulated into using them and would want to leave if they knew what the sites were doing.