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Give me three+ months a year off, every year, and I will gladly take less pay. It is not sensible for a teacher to make the same as someone who works fifty wee

Give me three+ months a year off, every year, and I will gladly take less pay. It is not sensible for a teacher to make the same as someone who works fifty weeks a year.

twunde 8y ago
How much less pay would you be willing to take? 50%? 75%? Teacher salaries in San Francisco range from 61-81k a year (this includes teachers master's degree). See https://www1.salary.com/CA/San-Francisco/Public-School-Teacher-Salary.html https://www1.salary.com/CA/San-Francisco/Public-School-Teach...
- djrogers 8y ago
  That’s crazy - you can move 20 odd miles away and make a lot more and have cheaper housing: https://www.dublin.k12.ca.us/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=6684&dataid=19557&FileName=Certificated%20Salary%20Schedules%2017-18.pdf https://www.dublin.k12.ca.us/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx...
wonderwonder 8y ago
I understand what you are saying but I would argue that few jobs have as much of a long term economic impact as teachers. They serve as child care during the day allowing parents to work. They teach and care for children who then grow up to be wage earners and business starters. The quality of their future work and the direction they take can often be linked directly to the quality of education they had in elementary through high school. Living in a district with poor quality schools strongly encourages those that can afford it to send their kids to private school (me included). I am very not rich. The money I spend on private school would allow me to start a business, retire early, donate to charity or any number of things. The quality of local teachers and schools has a massive impact on my financial well being. I would gladly pay more in taxes to raise the quality of public education if it allowed me to save on private school. Sadly public education in many areas is very weak and the low teacher pay as well as the general lack of respect causes many people that would make excellent teachers to seek employment in other fields. Our children, economy and nation suffer as a result.
Redoubts 8y ago
> It is not sensible for a teacher to make the same as someone who works fifty weeks a year. This is a dumb way to value things.
kraftman 8y ago
You could take 3 months off a year and still earn more.
taneq 8y ago
Those months aren't "off", they're spent doing course prep, professional development, and other admin tasks. And during the school term, teachers spend at least a couple of unpaid hours a day on marking and lesson prep. And their contact time is spent wrangling a large group of immature psychopaths who don't want to be there. It's not as tough as some teachers make out but it's nowhere near as cruisy as it looks from the outside, either.

Give me three+ months a year off, every year, and I will gladly take less pay. It is not sensible for a teacher to make the same as someone who works fifty weeks a year.

twunde 8y ago

How much less pay would you be willing to take? 50%? 75%? Teacher salaries in San Francisco range from 61-81k a year (this includes teachers master's degree). See https://www1.salary.com/CA/San-Francisco/Public-School-Teacher-Salary.html https://www1.salary.com/CA/San-Francisco/Public-School-Teach...

djrogers 8y ago
That’s crazy - you can move 20 odd miles away and make a lot more and have cheaper housing: https://www.dublin.k12.ca.us/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=6684&dataid=19557&FileName=Certificated%20Salary%20Schedules%2017-18.pdf https://www.dublin.k12.ca.us/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx...

wonderwonder 8y ago

I understand what you are saying but I would argue that few jobs have as much of a long term economic impact as teachers. They serve as child care during the day allowing parents to work. They teach and care for children who then grow up to be wage earners and business starters. The quality of their future work and the direction they take can often be linked directly to the quality of education they had in elementary through high school. Living in a district with poor quality schools strongly encourages those that can afford it to send their kids to private school (me included). I am very not rich. The money I spend on private school would allow me to start a business, retire early, donate to charity or any number of things. The quality of local teachers and schools has a massive impact on my financial well being. I would gladly pay more in taxes to raise the quality of public education if it allowed me to save on private school. Sadly public education in many areas is very weak and the low teacher pay as well as the general lack of respect causes many people that would make excellent teachers to seek employment in other fields. Our children, economy and nation suffer as a result.

Redoubts 8y ago

> It is not sensible for a teacher to make the same as someone who works fifty weeks a year. This is a dumb way to value things.

kraftman 8y ago

You could take 3 months off a year and still earn more.

taneq 8y ago

Those months aren't "off", they're spent doing course prep, professional development, and other admin tasks. And during the school term, teachers spend at least a couple of unpaid hours a day on marking and lesson prep. And their contact time is spent wrangling a large group of immature psychopaths who don't want to be there. It's not as tough as some teachers make out but it's nowhere near as cruisy as it looks from the outside, either.