4 ms·
Your argument is that because one woman has had this level of success then gender bias doesn't exist?
by chipgap98 8y ago
Your argument is that because one woman has had this level of success then gender bias doesn't exist?
- malvosenior 8y agoMy argument is that someone as privileged as Chang ought not sling mud at an entire industry and mark us a “brotopia”. I’m actually not ok with someone labeling me like that. Extra galling given that she has succeeded wildly in that very industry.
- danielam 8y agoIf her arguments are faulty, you ought to focus on the flaws in her arguments, beginning with her strongest. Neither engaging in ad hominem nor making use of ecological fallacies contributes anything.
- malvosenior 8y agoThe book is literally titled Brotopia, which is an ad hominem slur against our industry. Chang set the level of discourse.
- chipgap98 8y agoLook at the gender ratio in tech. Look at the survey released yesterday about how many female YC founders have been harassed. You are benefiting from your gender by being in tech. That doesn't mean that there are no successful women in tech or that every man in tech is a bro. Its a macro take on the industry
- malvosenior 8y ago> You are benefiting from your gender by being in tech Extreme BS. I succeed in tech because I'm a very good developer. I've also had VCs treat me very poorly. It's not a gender thing, a lot of them are just assholes.
- danielam 8y agoI would be very careful when appealing to gender ratio because the mere presence of a gender disparity does not imply an obvious cause of the gender disparity (nor does it necessarily imply a problem, for that matter). It may very well be the case that women naturally tend to choose different kinds of occupations. For example, if a bro culture does exist, then it may very well follow from the gender disparity which is itself the result of other factors. This may in turn create an environment that is unappealing to the women who do enter tech.