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Perhaps try to read the article. It's quite explicit about what plans were in effect, and why the four F-22 were left on the ground.

by greedo 8y ago

JohnBooty 8y ago
I did read the article. Admittedly the article seems to contradict itself. In the opening sentence it says "more than a dozen" but later on it talks about "four." From the article: > The F-22s left behind could not fly for > either mechanical or safety reasons, said > a spokeswoman, who also said all the hangars > on base were damaged. It seems pretty clear that on any base, not all planes will be airworthy at any given time. It also seems pretty clear that in prime hurricane season, in prime hurricane territory, that... I don't know, man, hurricanes might roll through. Seems avoidable to me. Obviously, making every single hanger hurricane-proof is probably not feasible. How about, having some kind of smaller reinforced hangar for the planes which cannot be evacuated? Jet fighters are really not that massive; we're probably not talking something the size of a football stadium. Seems cheaper than just losing up to a billion dollars worth of irreplaceable fighters.
- mulmen 8y ago
  From the article (emphasis mine): "More than a dozen F-22s were left behind as Hurricane Michael bore down on the base Oct. 10. Now, in Michael's wake, many of those are damaged, and some beyond repair, at a cost of more than $1 billion, Air Force officials said." So of the ~12 planes left behind a subset were damaged and and even smaller subset (apparently four) were potentially damaged beyond repair. The arrogance on display here is staggering. You think the USAF is not aware of hurricanes in Florida? Since you are obviously an expert please tell me how many category 4 hurricanes have hit the Florida panhandle in the time the USAF has existed or in the time since we started recording them. How many have hit Tyndall directly? How many times has it successfully withstood tropical storms and hurricanes? Please share the credentials that qualify you to provide detailed guidance to the USAF on how to design and run an air base.

Perhaps try to read the article. It's quite explicit about what plans were in effect, and why the four F-22 were left on the ground.

by greedo 8y ago

Perhaps try to read the article. It's quite explicit about what plans were in effect, and why the four F-22 were left on the ground.

JohnBooty 8y ago

I did read the article. Admittedly the article seems to contradict itself. In the opening sentence it says "more than a dozen" but later on it talks about "four." From the article: > The F-22s left behind could not fly for > either mechanical or safety reasons, said > a spokeswoman, who also said all the hangars > on base were damaged. It seems pretty clear that on any base, not all planes will be airworthy at any given time. It also seems pretty clear that in prime hurricane season, in prime hurricane territory, that... I don't know, man, hurricanes might roll through. Seems avoidable to me. Obviously, making every single hanger hurricane-proof is probably not feasible. How about, having some kind of smaller reinforced hangar for the planes which cannot be evacuated? Jet fighters are really not that massive; we're probably not talking something the size of a football stadium. Seems cheaper than just losing up to a billion dollars worth of irreplaceable fighters.

mulmen 8y ago
From the article (emphasis mine): "More than a dozen F-22s were left behind as Hurricane Michael bore down on the base Oct. 10. Now, in Michael's wake, many of those are damaged, and some beyond repair, at a cost of more than $1 billion, Air Force officials said." So of the ~12 planes left behind a subset were damaged and and even smaller subset (apparently four) were potentially damaged beyond repair. The arrogance on display here is staggering. You think the USAF is not aware of hurricanes in Florida? Since you are obviously an expert please tell me how many category 4 hurricanes have hit the Florida panhandle in the time the USAF has existed or in the time since we started recording them. How many have hit Tyndall directly? How many times has it successfully withstood tropical storms and hurricanes? Please share the credentials that qualify you to provide detailed guidance to the USAF on how to design and run an air base.