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> after seeing on of the videos on the EU I am now skeptical The EU is almost desperately transparent: http://europa.eu/ http://europa.eu/ > There are 3 big v
by craigsmansion 8y ago
> after seeing on of the videos on the EU I am now skeptical
The EU is almost desperately transparent: http://europa.eu/ http://europa.eu/
> There are 3 big voting bodies: EU Council, EU Parliament, and EU comission.
The Council are the elected heads of state of EU members. They decide on the course.
The EU commission is tasked with implementing that course, and producing legislation.
The EU parliament is tasked with correcting that legislation. Although they have little legislative power, they can dissolve the commission. In the grand scheme of things, the buck stops with them. They are elected directly by EU citizens.
> they started micro-managing everything in the EU.
The EU takes care of the things almost all members agree on (remember, the Council sets the course). They don't get to be involved in high-coverage contentious politics.
> Think of gdpr
Yes, a highly popular measure inside Europe, even by tech people who are affected by it.
> It's starting to resemble a big authoritarian state.
Yes, they will force members to do their bidding with fish-quota, clean beaches, and humane labour conditions.
The EU structure is a little complicated, but it's 400 million citizens we're talking about. Its powers are very limited and is derived from 27 countries wanting to interact to try and set a course that benefits everyone, instead of individual countries racing each other to the bottom with disastrous results.
- BjoernKW 8y ago> > Think of gdpr > Yes, a highly popular measure inside Europe, even by tech people who are affected by it. I beg to differ. 'Controversial' is more like it. There are some who are in favour of GDPR but there are also those - myself included - who consider it well-intentioned but badly executed.
- alecco 8y agoYes, I mentioned both gdpr and copyright as I'm not disingenuous to just paint the negative side only. And the point was them micro-managing law. You conveniently kept out the copyright one.
- quonn 8y agoWhat you call micro-managing is really regulations. And those are almost synonymous with the single market. If regulations would not be the same, there could be no single market (that benefits everyone, including companies and workers), because national differences would distort that.
- tomjen3 8y agoDo you really think the people want new draconian copyright rules? No, but big lobbyists do, so there we go.
- goliatone 8y agoIf how the Greek bailout was handled serves as a reference of how those 3 bodies work then I’m very skeptical of the EU as a viable political entity. I’ve always thought that the EU was a good idea, but the lack of transparency and the feeling of being driven by closed door politics and Germany having too much clout and disappointingly making very selfish decisions puts Brexit under a different light. I still think is a terrible idea but those are things to consider