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All manufacturers are worser than Apple. I was trying to shop for an laptop/ultra book(who buys bulky products anymore) and was surprised at lack of competitive

All manufacturers are worser than Apple. I was trying to shop for an laptop/ultra book(who buys bulky products anymore) and was surprised at lack of competitive products to Apple's. Perhaps a decade back there were quality, high-end products from IBM and Sony which could rival Apple. Now you are stuck with low quality products with much lesser reliability than MacBook pros at a higher price point even for the same spec. Apple is sort of enjoying it. May be surface would make a difference.

evanslify 8y ago
Beside some softwares only exists on macOS, Dell and Lenovo (if not concerned about its Chinese background) makes good ultrabooks which is on-par with Macbook Pro these days. Plus, repairability & without keyboard which would break on particle ingress.
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- arcticbull 8y ago
  In Apple's defense, the newest keyboards no longer suffer from the particle ingress issue, and they're genuinely more pleasant to type on.
dman 8y ago
Try Lenovo's service on Thinkpad sometime - its surprisingly good.
shaan7 8y ago
Ever look at Dell XPS 13 ?
djsumdog 8y ago
Up until the very latest generation of Macs, Apple was behind every other manufacturer when it came to 8th gen Intel chips. Dave2D has several videos before the most recent line-up telling people not to buy Apple laptops unless they needed specific Apple software as all the high end Dell, HP, Asus and MSI offerings had better hardware for more reasonable prices. Even now, you can find a lot of gaming and content creator laptops that are just as good, and sometimes even cheaper than the current Apple laptops. For an i9, it doesn't matter who you pick, they're all throttled. If you're getting an i9, you should really get a gaming laptop instead. There are several that are built with very good thermals and won't throttle (although you'll have to dig through Linus/Dave2D reviews to find the specific models) and that are great for video editing and rendering as well.
- askmike 8y ago
  Usually when people talk about the very high quality of apple hardware they are rarely talking about the specs. But instead about build quality, software, integration, usability, etc. As a practical example: I have been using a Macbooks for years and whenever I use something else I get disappointed by the small and terrible touchpads.
  - hosay123 8y ago
    The XPS 15 has the first non-Apple touchpad to impress me in 12 years. Tap heuristics aren't as nice as Apple, but definitely more than workable

evanslify 8y ago

Beside some softwares only exists on macOS, Dell and Lenovo (if not concerned about its Chinese background) makes good ultrabooks which is on-par with Macbook Pro these days. Plus, repairability & without keyboard which would break on particle ingress.

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arcticbull 8y ago
In Apple's defense, the newest keyboards no longer suffer from the particle ingress issue, and they're genuinely more pleasant to type on.

dman 8y ago

Try Lenovo's service on Thinkpad sometime - its surprisingly good.

shaan7 8y ago

Ever look at Dell XPS 13 ?

djsumdog 8y ago

Up until the very latest generation of Macs, Apple was behind every other manufacturer when it came to 8th gen Intel chips. Dave2D has several videos before the most recent line-up telling people not to buy Apple laptops unless they needed specific Apple software as all the high end Dell, HP, Asus and MSI offerings had better hardware for more reasonable prices. Even now, you can find a lot of gaming and content creator laptops that are just as good, and sometimes even cheaper than the current Apple laptops. For an i9, it doesn't matter who you pick, they're all throttled. If you're getting an i9, you should really get a gaming laptop instead. There are several that are built with very good thermals and won't throttle (although you'll have to dig through Linus/Dave2D reviews to find the specific models) and that are great for video editing and rendering as well.

askmike 8y ago
Usually when people talk about the very high quality of apple hardware they are rarely talking about the specs. But instead about build quality, software, integration, usability, etc. As a practical example: I have been using a Macbooks for years and whenever I use something else I get disappointed by the small and terrible touchpads.
- hosay123 8y ago
  The XPS 15 has the first non-Apple touchpad to impress me in 12 years. Tap heuristics aren't as nice as Apple, but definitely more than workable