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#unrelatedtothetopic Maybe it is a signal of the current times we are in but I can't read a NYTimes article talking about Trump/current administration and not

#unrelatedtothetopic Maybe it is a signal of the current times we are in but I can't read a NYTimes article talking about Trump/current administration and not feel conflicted that it will biased against him/them. Indeed, one of the tragedies of the past couple of years for me is this realization that even centuries-old trusted press outlets like NYTimes are inherently biased (and doesn't represent the thoughts on all Americans).

weliketocode 8y ago
A lot of truth to this, but such is the role of the media. If Trump was threatening to cut off MBS's weapons supplies, the article would be written talking about all of the potential negative ramifications.
natch 8y ago
The media is definitely biased against liars and the different flavors of that: people who distort, spin, and misrepresent. And to be really direct about it, Trump is all of those things. The fact is, the media should be biased against such people.
- product50 8y ago
  Well - there is your bias. While I am not saying Trump is always truthful, there are a small no. of things he is doing which are at least debatable (such as his stance against China or the new UCMCA pact or the Tax Bill) but NYTimes has never called those out in a thoughtful manner. All I get from NYTimes is "how" Trump/GOP was able to force things through via politics in Congress vs. the actual merits/demerits of the "thing" itself. I feel WSJ is at least more neutral (but it could be leaning right though I am not sure) and tries to analyze topics more principally vs. emotionally/morally.
  - leesalminen 8y ago
    I’d agree about WSJ trying to be neutral. Even my left leaning parents, both of whom are life long New York liberals, have ditched NYT almost entirely and now read WSJ daily.
- leesalminen 8y ago
  That made me laugh, so thanks for that. To me it seems that both the media and Trump distort, spin and misrepresent things with nearly every sentence they utter. Different sides of the same coin.
- eclectic 8y ago
  The Enemy of the People.
avivo 8y ago
There is almost always a bias toward values. For example free speech. At various times, those values have come in conflict with particular groups in power (and their source of power). So in those cases their can be a sort of bias that is hard to avoid.

weliketocode 8y ago

A lot of truth to this, but such is the role of the media. If Trump was threatening to cut off MBS's weapons supplies, the article would be written talking about all of the potential negative ramifications.

natch 8y ago

The media is definitely biased against liars and the different flavors of that: people who distort, spin, and misrepresent. And to be really direct about it, Trump is all of those things. The fact is, the media should be biased against such people.

product50 8y ago
Well - there is your bias. While I am not saying Trump is always truthful, there are a small no. of things he is doing which are at least debatable (such as his stance against China or the new UCMCA pact or the Tax Bill) but NYTimes has never called those out in a thoughtful manner. All I get from NYTimes is "how" Trump/GOP was able to force things through via politics in Congress vs. the actual merits/demerits of the "thing" itself. I feel WSJ is at least more neutral (but it could be leaning right though I am not sure) and tries to analyze topics more principally vs. emotionally/morally.
- leesalminen 8y ago
  I’d agree about WSJ trying to be neutral. Even my left leaning parents, both of whom are life long New York liberals, have ditched NYT almost entirely and now read WSJ daily.
leesalminen 8y ago
That made me laugh, so thanks for that. To me it seems that both the media and Trump distort, spin and misrepresent things with nearly every sentence they utter. Different sides of the same coin.
eclectic 8y ago
The Enemy of the People.

avivo 8y ago

There is almost always a bias toward values. For example free speech. At various times, those values have come in conflict with particular groups in power (and their source of power). So in those cases their can be a sort of bias that is hard to avoid.