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Perhaps the software is already advance enough that a user could use a more complex input into the facial recognition system. For example left eye closed. Or no
by 14 8y ago
Perhaps the software is already advance enough that a user could use a more complex input into the facial recognition system. For example left eye closed. Or nose scrunched. A pout face. And so on. That way the odds of someone forcing the correct input in the limited allowed attempts greatly diminishes.
- giancarlostoro 8y agoI think maybe a mixture of facial and a pattern for things you specify would work wonders... Like you can unlock with just your face but not all apps should be available. To open apps not safe listed you need to put in a pattern / pin / vocal password based on your own voice or fingerprint or the inverse to open protected apps you need further authorization via other authentication approaches
- harshreality 8y agoApple just had another ios lock screen bypass (for accessing contacts). Do you really want to encourage them to make the app/data access state machine more complex?
- blueprint 8y agoThat's like saying they're capable of making an extremely complicated system work but not one that is only an epsilon slightly more complicated...
- dan-robertson 8y agoNo it’s like saying that they can nearly-just-about manage to keep things secure with two states but that they would fail to deal with the complexity of the number of states were increased 50%
- blueprint 8y agoOh yeah because the concept of abstraction breaks down where this specific feature begins…
- paulddraper 8y agoThis is actually significant, because as a rule of thumb the law can compell physical testimony (e.g. blood test, fingerprint), but not mental testimony (e.g. password, PIN, which finger to swipe, what face to make). Though practically, I doubt many people will want to scrunch their face each time.
- Operyl 8y agoThe reality is this feature wouldn’t be required for most people.
- sulam 8y agoOr if you're me and millions like me -- take off your glasses. Works like a charm! (By which I mean it doesn't ever work.)
- matthewmacleod 8y agoThat’s interesting - I don’t experience any difference between unlocking with glasses on and with them off. I actually thought I did at first, and was a bit annoyed. But it turned out I was just holding the phone far too close to my face when I didn’t have glasses on.
- leesalminen 8y agoSame here!
- dan-robertson 8y agoAlso if you fail with a sufficiently similar face and then quickly unlock with passcode then it will remember your “new” face and unlock for it. This is to allow the phone to work with eg changes of appearance that a slow (eg growing hair) or sudden (eg cutting it)
- woadwarrior01 8y agoThat’s the only nit I have with Face ID, which otherwise works very well. I wear blue blocking glasses at night and I haven’t been able to get Face ID to work when I’m wearing them.
- eridius 8y agoiOS 12 lets you register a single alternate appearance for Face ID. Assuming the glasses aren't blocking IR, you should be able to register yourself with the glasses as the alternate appearance.
- dbdoug 8y agoI have blue blocking glasses (by Cyxus) and Face ID works fine with them on or off.
- ridgeguy 8y agoI agree. If I understand current law, one cannot be forced to supply a password or passcode because of 5th Amendment rights against forced, potentially self-incriminatory speech. A fingerprint is regarded differently. You can be forced to supply a fingerprint because it is something you are, not something you know, the latter being speech which cannot be compelled. One could use biometrics like facial recognition and still enjoy 5th Amendment protections if a sequence of facial gestures were required to unlock a phone. While the biometric features comprising the sequence are indeed something you are, the sequence is something you know, and constitutes speech, which you cannot be compelled to supply. So yeah, Officer - I'll stare at my iPhone for as long as you like. It won't unlock until I blink my right eye twice within 1 second and raise my left eyebrow immediately thereafter. edit to add missing word
- thisacctforreal 8y agoUsing Apple Pay would be a joy. Instead you can press the power button 5 times to trigger Emergency SOS which disables FaceID/TouchID.
- AnonymousPlanet 8y agoGreat, now I have this picture in my mind of dozens of people making grimaces at their phones on the train.