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Because white male culture is broader than just sci-fi? I'm making the point that both one specific culture means monoculture, and I think pointing out that it'
by ealexhudson 8y ago
Because white male culture is broader than just sci-fi? I'm making the point that both one specific culture means monoculture, and I think pointing out that it's white male is important. Techbroism is a thing. White men aren't incapable of empathy, but it's very much more difficult to address a diverse audience from one fixed viewpoint.
- dymk 8y agoBut why does the article go out of its way to say the white male leadership is interested in the escapist, scifi, entertainment aspect of AR, and makes a special point of the nonwhite nonmale manager being the one actually coming up with compelling usecases? It seems like a cheap grab for article attention, piggy backing on the current political climate, and not a genuine analysis on why ML is failing to come up with inventive AR usecases. It cheapens the point the article could have made, but fails to explore at all: Diversity is needed to develop a product that appeals to everyone.
- _jal 8y agoThis thread is entertaining as an object lesson in white male fragility. Obsessing about a side note in an article because the scrutiny normally reserved for nonwhite-males is glancingly turned their way... Instead of indulging the sense of alarm you get from this sort of (very mild) scrutiny, try to get outside of your ego and consider that this feeling you have is others' normal state of existence. You'll adapt better as demographics change and the wheel turns, and introspection is good for you. Smile more, and stop being so emotional. /s
- dymk 8y agoOh, there's the accusation of white male fragility. How disappointing. I'd call this article out just the same if it was calling out black women or lesbian Latinos. How about instead, let's ask journalists to meet a bar of treating all classes of people equally, and not making pointless comments about someone's race and gender.
- neom 8y agoI don't think the vast majority of people are oblivious to what the standard archetype of a white man in technology is, why is it so wrong to use that as context?
- anon12345690 8y agobecause its as bad as talking about the stereotypical black man in the same context people are more complicated than race and gender
- neom 8y agoWhy do you believe that to be true?
- weberc2 8y agoWhat about the thread seems "fragile" to you? It didn't seem like anyone was taking personal offense to the comment, only pointing out that it was oddly irrelevant, as though the author went far out of their way to criticize white men. Certainly no "sense of alarm" or "ego". Seems like you've gone well out of your way to conflate an observation with a rather dramatic (and frankly offensive--I don't imagine women of color taking kindly to being called 'fragile', for example) emotional response...
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- thx4allthestuff 8y agoAs someone who was born as part of the race and gender being disparaged in the above comments, maybe I should be thankful. Yes, those comments were slightly hurtful, but mostly it was just really weird feeling hatred from another person based on the color of my skin and gender. I haven’t had a chance to feel that very often, and I honestly think the exercise was meaningful. Thanks for putting me in that position to know how much it hurts when people blindly hate based on race and gender. It might help me see things differently in the future (shrug). That being said, I would never disparage another race in the way that you just did. Way to keep it classy.
- stevespang 8y agoDefinitely a cheap grab, likely a California libtard
- milankovic 8y ago> [..] piggy backing on the current political climate [..] I wholeheartedly agree with your observation (including original comment), and you already found the reason here by yourself.
- dx87 8y ago"white male" isn't a culture. I don't know if you're aware, but not every white male is the same, they come from diverse backgrounds just like every other race and gender.
- CharlesW 8y agoYou intersect with many cultures — examples might include religious culture, pop culture, Southern American culture, etc. "White male culture" is a thing, but it's easy to be white and not aware of that if you take it for granted and/or think of it as "the default". (As an analogy, you might think you don't have "an accent" because you think of yours as the "normal" one.)
- benrbray 8y agoWould you feel the same way about an article lamenting "black male culture"?
- ivanbakel 8y agoWhat is the accusation here - that "black male culture" wouldn't be agreed to exist, or that nobody would be allowed to lament it? There are certainly groups that lament "black male culture", with varying political views. On the left, you might find that criticism in views like intersectional black feminism against "misogynoir" - macho behaviour and chauvinism especially by black men. On the the political right, criticism of "black male culture" hardly needs naming.
- slededit 8y agoIs this the sci-fi loving Star Trek convention attendee "white male culture". or is it the Sunday night football, never misses a game "white male"? Or perhaps you meant the cow rustling rodeo loving white male culture out on the ranch? I really don't know what "white male culture" you are referring to.
- neom 8y agoDo you also disagree that there is such a thing as an image of masculinity?