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Can someone explain what are the (technical) challenges to solving this? I feel like it shouldn't be too hard, and should go hand in hand with modernizing the p

Can someone explain what are the (technical) challenges to solving this? I feel like it shouldn't be too hard, and should go hand in hand with modernizing the phone system.

flyinghamster 8y ago
The standard excuse is "Wharrgarbl! My PBX needs to be able to send the extension making the call!" F*ck your PBX. Phone companies a) won't insure that companies only send Caller ID data that actually belongs to them, and b) won't cut off providers that don't do likewise.
jackhack 8y ago
the ability to blacklist a range of known offenders would help quite a lot. Further, being able to whitelist numbers would help. But it would be great if foreign nations' governments would stop turning a blind eye to these scams. India is a well known hotspot. The Nigerian scam is so named for a reason and is practically a national sport. To show just how pervasive it is, there was even a hit song about cheating Westerners ("I go chop your dollar"). Caller ID that isn't trivially spoofed wouldn't hurt, either. Curiously, I had two "microsoft tech support" robo-voice robocalls just tonight. The bastards.
- fegul 8y ago
  Did you mean the Nigerian song by P-Square featuring the words "chop my money"? Because that's not about scamming.
  - jackhack 8y ago
    No. It's called "I go chop your dollar", by Nkem Owoh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YjvC4ndzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YjvC4ndzM Lyrics I done suffer no be small / Upon say I get sense / Poverty no good at all, no / Na im make I join this business / 419 no be thief, it's just a game / Everybody dey play em / if anybody fall mugu, / ha! my brother I go chop em / National Airport na me get em / National Stadium na me build em / President na my sister brother / You be the mugu, I be the master / Oyinbo man I go chop your dollar, / I go take your money and disappear / 419 is just a game, you are the loser I am the winner / The refinery na me get em, / The contract, na you I go give em / But you go pay me small money make I bring em / you be the mugu, I be the master… / na me be the master ooo!!!! / When Oyinbo play wayo, / dey go say na new style / When country man do him own, / them go dey shout: bring em, kill em, die! / That Oyinbo people greedy, I say them greedy / I don't see them tire / That's why when they fall into my trap o! / I dey show them fire" Translated by Azuka Nzegwu and Adeolu Ademoyo. I am suffering greatly / and I get this idea (or wise) / poverty is not good at all / and I decide to join this business (scam) / 419 is not a criminal act but a game / Everybody will play / but if you are fool / I will chop your money / Chorus: I own the National Airport / I built the National Stadium / The president is my sister's brother / You are the fool and I am the master / White man, I will eat your dollar / I will take your money and disappear / 419 is just a game, you are the loser and I am the winner / I own the refinery / I will give you the contract / But you will have to pay me a small fee before I bring them / You are the fool, I am the master / I am the master!!!! / When whites scam / it is said that it is a new style / But when the country man does the same / White people shout: bring them, kill them, die! / White people are greedy, I say they are greedy / I have seen through them deeply (or very well) / So, when they fall into my trap / I will show them fire (or showing someone who is the real boss by treating them harshly)

Can someone explain what are the (technical) challenges to solving this? I feel like it shouldn't be too hard, and should go hand in hand with modernizing the phone system.

flyinghamster 8y ago

The standard excuse is "Wharrgarbl! My PBX needs to be able to send the extension making the call!" F*ck your PBX. Phone companies a) won't insure that companies only send Caller ID data that actually belongs to them, and b) won't cut off providers that don't do likewise.

jackhack 8y ago

the ability to blacklist a range of known offenders would help quite a lot. Further, being able to whitelist numbers would help. But it would be great if foreign nations' governments would stop turning a blind eye to these scams. India is a well known hotspot. The Nigerian scam is so named for a reason and is practically a national sport. To show just how pervasive it is, there was even a hit song about cheating Westerners ("I go chop your dollar"). Caller ID that isn't trivially spoofed wouldn't hurt, either. Curiously, I had two "microsoft tech support" robo-voice robocalls just tonight. The bastards.

fegul 8y ago
Did you mean the Nigerian song by P-Square featuring the words "chop my money"? Because that's not about scamming.
- jackhack 8y ago
  No. It's called "I go chop your dollar", by Nkem Owoh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YjvC4ndzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YjvC4ndzM Lyrics I done suffer no be small / Upon say I get sense / Poverty no good at all, no / Na im make I join this business / 419 no be thief, it's just a game / Everybody dey play em / if anybody fall mugu, / ha! my brother I go chop em / National Airport na me get em / National Stadium na me build em / President na my sister brother / You be the mugu, I be the master / Oyinbo man I go chop your dollar, / I go take your money and disappear / 419 is just a game, you are the loser I am the winner / The refinery na me get em, / The contract, na you I go give em / But you go pay me small money make I bring em / you be the mugu, I be the master… / na me be the master ooo!!!! / When Oyinbo play wayo, / dey go say na new style / When country man do him own, / them go dey shout: bring em, kill em, die! / That Oyinbo people greedy, I say them greedy / I don't see them tire / That's why when they fall into my trap o! / I dey show them fire" Translated by Azuka Nzegwu and Adeolu Ademoyo. I am suffering greatly / and I get this idea (or wise) / poverty is not good at all / and I decide to join this business (scam) / 419 is not a criminal act but a game / Everybody will play / but if you are fool / I will chop your money / Chorus: I own the National Airport / I built the National Stadium / The president is my sister's brother / You are the fool and I am the master / White man, I will eat your dollar / I will take your money and disappear / 419 is just a game, you are the loser and I am the winner / I own the refinery / I will give you the contract / But you will have to pay me a small fee before I bring them / You are the fool, I am the master / I am the master!!!! / When whites scam / it is said that it is a new style / But when the country man does the same / White people shout: bring them, kill them, die! / White people are greedy, I say they are greedy / I have seen through them deeply (or very well) / So, when they fall into my trap / I will show them fire (or showing someone who is the real boss by treating them harshly)