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What if cigarettes were $20 a pack? Would that help?

ddingus 8y ago
They are in places. So what? That's not really the issue. I don't need any help personally. For me, I'm in a good place, few worries. Others may need help, and they may even make that known too. Posing that question isn't really how to get at the matter of help. For that to actually happen and be germane, understanding needs to come first. I put what I did here to that end. Same with this comment.
Broken_Hippo 8y ago
Not really. It sometimes makes more people try to quit, but the problems with quitting still remain. It isn't always a rational decision to start or continue smoking. What would actually help more folks would be better research to quitting. Better drugs and other methods to help folks quit (I couldn't tolerate Chantrix either). Making these things available to people for free. Not just "free for 4-6 weeks once" but free for as long as it takes people to quit, for as many attempts as they need to quit. If you are poor, some of the fear is that a patch might not work, and then suddenly you have no money for cigs.
- UsernameProxy 8y ago
  The cost of patches and gum, etc, is definitely an issue for some of us. I've tried and failed quitting smoking several times cold turkey and can't afford all the other stuff.
  - ddingus 8y ago
    You may want to try a nicotine salt vape. That worked. I am currently tapering down by diluting the juice. Yhat is working nicely. Unlike tobacco, I am not in a hurry. Ending the health hazard was a source of constant angst. Today, it is about reducing cost and moving toward a more pleasure centered experience. Just getting rid of triggers. The SMOK brand refillable vapor pens are great, not a lot of money. Strength is there, at half the cost to start. Good luck. Don't let people tell you it isn't rough. It is. I have kicked supposedly harder things before. Sucked, but doable. Tobacco is no joke.
    - UsernameProxy 8y ago
      I've actually quit for several months a couple of times, but the first really bad day made me run straight back to it. I guess part of what I need to do is educate myself on better coping mechanisms. I will have a look at the SMOK stuff - thanks.
      - ddingus 8y ago
        Infinix or Fit. Get the high strength nicotine salt juice. There is a shift in how you deal with things. It is like an off brand smoke, or the difference between a menthol and regular. It passes. Takes a day, maybe two. Once it has passed, you will find going to a real tobacco feels bad. It always was, but you became inured to it over time. The other thing you will find is your craving isn't necessarily for nicotine. It's the extras, and of course, those are bad too. All an ugly cycle. Scrape $50 together. That's enough for a unit, couple refillable chambers, and some good juice. Again, nicotine salt is where it's at. Get the highest strength, and use the device in moderation. You will self-select everything else quickly after that initial shift. Then, no matter what, stay with it for a time. It will only take a few successful times for the psychological impact to fade and confidence grow. From there, you've got a much healthier cost management problem. It's a nice problem to have. Me? I'm tapering off just to end this shit. :D

They are in places. So what? That's not really the issue. I don't need any help personally. For me, I'm in a good place, few worries. Others may need help, and they may even make that known too. Posing that question isn't really how to get at the matter of help. For that to actually happen and be germane, understanding needs to come first. I put what I did here to that end. Same with this comment.

Broken_Hippo 8y ago

Not really. It sometimes makes more people try to quit, but the problems with quitting still remain. It isn't always a rational decision to start or continue smoking. What would actually help more folks would be better research to quitting. Better drugs and other methods to help folks quit (I couldn't tolerate Chantrix either). Making these things available to people for free. Not just "free for 4-6 weeks once" but free for as long as it takes people to quit, for as many attempts as they need to quit. If you are poor, some of the fear is that a patch might not work, and then suddenly you have no money for cigs.

UsernameProxy 8y ago
The cost of patches and gum, etc, is definitely an issue for some of us. I've tried and failed quitting smoking several times cold turkey and can't afford all the other stuff.
- ddingus 8y ago
  You may want to try a nicotine salt vape. That worked. I am currently tapering down by diluting the juice. Yhat is working nicely. Unlike tobacco, I am not in a hurry. Ending the health hazard was a source of constant angst. Today, it is about reducing cost and moving toward a more pleasure centered experience. Just getting rid of triggers. The SMOK brand refillable vapor pens are great, not a lot of money. Strength is there, at half the cost to start. Good luck. Don't let people tell you it isn't rough. It is. I have kicked supposedly harder things before. Sucked, but doable. Tobacco is no joke.
  - UsernameProxy 8y ago
    I've actually quit for several months a couple of times, but the first really bad day made me run straight back to it. I guess part of what I need to do is educate myself on better coping mechanisms. I will have a look at the SMOK stuff - thanks.
    - ddingus 8y ago
      Infinix or Fit. Get the high strength nicotine salt juice. There is a shift in how you deal with things. It is like an off brand smoke, or the difference between a menthol and regular. It passes. Takes a day, maybe two. Once it has passed, you will find going to a real tobacco feels bad. It always was, but you became inured to it over time. The other thing you will find is your craving isn't necessarily for nicotine. It's the extras, and of course, those are bad too. All an ugly cycle. Scrape $50 together. That's enough for a unit, couple refillable chambers, and some good juice. Again, nicotine salt is where it's at. Get the highest strength, and use the device in moderation. You will self-select everything else quickly after that initial shift. Then, no matter what, stay with it for a time. It will only take a few successful times for the psychological impact to fade and confidence grow. From there, you've got a much healthier cost management problem. It's a nice problem to have. Me? I'm tapering off just to end this shit. :D