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Okay, I could be convinced that a Markdown-type format with HTML output and very restrictive formatting could work, as long as it really includes (nearly) all o
by throwaway287391 8y ago
Okay, I could be convinced that a Markdown-type format with HTML output and very restrictive formatting could work, as long as it really includes (nearly) all of the support for tables, images, and math notation that LaTeX does, and displays well in any reasonable browser/platform. But is there an implemented working compiler of such a format?
I sort of doubt it. (But if I'm wrong, please do post it.) Going back to Reddit comments again, even Reddit's version of Markdown (which only allows basic text formatting and simple tables, no images or math notation) is broken as hell in their own official mobile app (at least the iOS one). Tables are screwed up, and even bold/italic is somehow buggy. And there are (probably multiple) engineers paid full time SF salaries to work on Reddit's mobile app.
Also, there would still need to be a canonical print format for this to work with current conference/journal rules, which typically include page limits. And for good reason: nobody except the authors (least of all reviewers) want papers to be any longer than they are. (Sure, you could change to a word or character limit, but then you'd have unlimited images, which would incentivize stuffing tons of information and text into figures and using tons of those. So you'd have to bring in another requirement on total image size, or something. And you can see how this quickly gets overly complicated and you'd really rather just have a simple page limit.)
- xfer 8y agoYou should look at several papers written in scribble(racket doc templating language), they are beautiful, not hard to author(compared to latex). Here is an example: http://www.cs.utah.edu/plt/scope-sets http://www.cs.utah.edu/plt/scope-sets . Although some of the models on semantics are pictures generated from latex :p
- danso 8y agoWow, that indeed is a beautiful online book, better than any Sphinx template I've so far come across. You've got me interested in checking out Scribble.
- throwaway287391 8y agoThanks for the link -- this does look really nice. But I do think the fact that they resort to using LaTeX-generated images for text [1] (as you mentioned) sort of proves my point that the existing implementations of this sort of format aren't really flexible enough for a lot of scientific papers yet. However, I admit this could be a reasonable way for even impatient and stubborn researchers to publish papers, given the right implementation. I'll withdraw my initial arrogant "I can tell you that ..." :P [1] http://www.cs.utah.edu/plt/scope-sets/model.html#%28part._.Single-.Phase_.Expansion%29 http://www.cs.utah.edu/plt/scope-sets/model.html#%28part._.S...
- aasasd 8y agoScribble's styles might have been touched by Matthew Butterick, whose online-book “Practical Typography” may IMO be the most beautiful site on the whole web, owing to the masterful application of fonts and margins: https://practicaltypography.com/ https://practicaltypography.com/ (The list of MB's commits is not telling much, but Flatt having written the foreword to MB's other book “Beautiful Racket” is more suggestive.)