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Thanks for this elaboration! Obviously there is lot of community know-how, that I am not aware of. Thanks for explaining them in detail. Learning to spot all

Thanks for this elaboration! Obviously there is lot of community know-how, that I am not aware of. Thanks for explaining them in detail. Learning to spot all those pattern is crucial if you want to be come effective at reading lisp. For the untrained eye lisp code often looks horrid. I don't think we disagree, though. All I am saying is that: "Riding the Lisp bicycle has been difficult for me. Here one thing I struggled with a lot." Maybe other people have the same difficulty and find this helpful.

lispm 8y ago
Right, you need to train yourself with these visual/structural tree patterns. The code does no longer look horrid and the parentheses will go away. You were not knowing that there is actual structure and thus you could not see the forest through the trees.
kazinator 8y ago
This is subjective. I came to Lisp with a background in C, C++ and numerous other things, none of them like Lisp. Lisp looked very good and highly readable; I liked it very much right away and was able to hit the ground running.