It seems we arrived at the same place with similar tactics. Not sure where I will stop thinking about going down, and stay at a particular weight yet. I find e

It seems we arrived at the same place with similar tactics. Not sure where I will stop thinking about going down, and stay at a particular weight yet. I find eating produce that just gets rid of hunger to be more unsatisfying that just being hungry. I really really enjoy my dinner when I am hungry most of the day. My food is incredibly appealing and I have no concerns about how much I eat or what it is (generally speaking). So I guess the comparison here is "be hungry + eating whatever you want at the end of the day" vs "graze on vegetables all day". My experiment is coming to a close soon though, as I am with you on the exercise benefits. My body is starting to get aches that I used to get before I started exercising. I've run regularly for years, but it didn't shed any weight unless I was perfectly diligent, which isn't something I could maintain just for weight loss. Hence, I found the source to weight loss/control without extra effort, don't eat much. If I gain weight, eat less until it's gone. Exercise then is purely for strength and health, (and happiness as you have also found out) but not weight loss. Happy to hear you got this under control in your life.