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I am not so sure. A mouse does not cook flesh, we do. They eat rotten flesh too. The day humans can eat uncooked\rotten flesh and not fall sick, I will consider

by msiyer 8y ago

I am not so sure. A mouse does not cook flesh, we do. They eat rotten flesh too. The day humans can eat uncooked\rotten flesh and not fall sick, I will consider us to be omnivores.

Retric 8y ago
Stake tartare is raw beef: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare 'dry-aged beef' is still rather sought after. "The process of dry-aging usually also promotes growth of certain fungal (mold) species on the external surface of the meat. This does not cause spoilage, but rather forms an external "crust" on the meat's surface, which is trimmed off when the meat is prepared for cooking." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_aging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_aging https://honest-food.net/on-hanging-pheasants-2/ https://honest-food.net/on-hanging-pheasants-2/ I could go on, but people can digest uncooked or well aged meat. It does have a higher risks, but that's more about how meat is raised and prepared not necessarily simply being old and uncooked.
- msiyer 8y ago
  Stake tartare is a dish. Ground raw flesh mixed with other ingredients. Cannot count this. > 'dry-aged beef' is still rather sought after. "The process of dry-aging "The process of dry-aging"... Processed. Cannot count this too. We do not have protein receptors in our tongue. We cannot taste flesh the way carnivores and omnivores can. They do not need to cook, add spices, process flesh. Raw meat can kill us.
  - Retric 8y ago
    > mixed with other ingredients such as the dreaded raw egg. The only thing making this easier to digest is the grinding part. Unprocessed entire raw and often living fish are regularly consumed as part of fraternity initiations and bets. It does not cause problems. Cooking increases food safety, but it's really not required for digestion. PS: To use a slightly older tradition. People used to do something similar in Europe. Hang birds up by the neck, when it fell down it was 'ready'. Calling that processed is ridiculous.
    - msiyer 8y ago
      People have done and do stupid stuff. What's your point?
      - groby_b 8y ago
        The point is that you brought up rotten meat. And then proceed to call any rotten meat we still consume "processed". That's intellectually dishonest.
groby_b 8y ago
You might want to look up "Stinkheads". Dry-aged beef. "Haut gout". "Hákarl" But that's not even germane to a discussion. Omnivores are not necessarily scavengers, nor does it mean that they eat literally everything. It means they eat meats, and plants. (Look e.g. at the maned wolf for another example of an omnivore that pretty much avoids rotten meat. They get 50% of their diet from - fresh - prey, and 50% from plants. That makes them an omnivore)
bkanber 8y ago
Most omnivorous and carnivorous animals can get sick from uncooked flesh too.

by msiyer 8y ago

I am not so sure. A mouse does not cook flesh, we do. They eat rotten flesh too. The day humans can eat uncooked\rotten flesh and not fall sick, I will consider us to be omnivores.

Retric 8y ago

Stake tartare is raw beef: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare 'dry-aged beef' is still rather sought after. "The process of dry-aging usually also promotes growth of certain fungal (mold) species on the external surface of the meat. This does not cause spoilage, but rather forms an external "crust" on the meat's surface, which is trimmed off when the meat is prepared for cooking." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_aging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_aging https://honest-food.net/on-hanging-pheasants-2/ https://honest-food.net/on-hanging-pheasants-2/ I could go on, but people can digest uncooked or well aged meat. It does have a higher risks, but that's more about how meat is raised and prepared not necessarily simply being old and uncooked.

msiyer 8y ago
Stake tartare is a dish. Ground raw flesh mixed with other ingredients. Cannot count this. > 'dry-aged beef' is still rather sought after. "The process of dry-aging "The process of dry-aging"... Processed. Cannot count this too. We do not have protein receptors in our tongue. We cannot taste flesh the way carnivores and omnivores can. They do not need to cook, add spices, process flesh. Raw meat can kill us.
- Retric 8y ago
  > mixed with other ingredients such as the dreaded raw egg. The only thing making this easier to digest is the grinding part. Unprocessed entire raw and often living fish are regularly consumed as part of fraternity initiations and bets. It does not cause problems. Cooking increases food safety, but it's really not required for digestion. PS: To use a slightly older tradition. People used to do something similar in Europe. Hang birds up by the neck, when it fell down it was 'ready'. Calling that processed is ridiculous.
  - msiyer 8y ago
    People have done and do stupid stuff. What's your point?
    - groby_b 8y ago
      The point is that you brought up rotten meat. And then proceed to call any rotten meat we still consume "processed". That's intellectually dishonest.

groby_b 8y ago

You might want to look up "Stinkheads". Dry-aged beef. "Haut gout". "Hákarl" But that's not even germane to a discussion. Omnivores are not necessarily scavengers, nor does it mean that they eat literally everything. It means they eat meats, and plants. (Look e.g. at the maned wolf for another example of an omnivore that pretty much avoids rotten meat. They get 50% of their diet from - fresh - prey, and 50% from plants. That makes them an omnivore)

bkanber 8y ago

Most omnivorous and carnivorous animals can get sick from uncooked flesh too.