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What an arrogant presentation... 1) “npm is the best at x, y, z” with no data to back the assertion or attempt to address the many counter arguments 2) we jus

What an arrogant presentation... 1) “npm is the best at x, y, z” with no data to back the assertion or attempt to address the many counter arguments 2) we just released a bunch of brand new security code! So it must be secure! 3) everyone is using npm, that must mean it’s the best, and not that technical debt is forcing the choice on everyone 4) everybody in the audience stand up and sit down when I say Jeez

snambi 8y ago
Yeah, it is very common in javascript kiddies world!
- ficklepickle 8y ago
  And expressing negative biases seems to be very common in the HN world. Say what you will about JS, I didn't see a single person being rude or dismissive towards another person during this conference.
  - techntoke 8y ago
    Always being PC isn't a good thing. I see tech people being too nice to sales people, and a lot of those people aren't really interested in being a genuine friend. It's time that real developers in the tech industry decide to actually be passionate and support what they care about. Not about what some sales presentation tells you to care about while giving you mediocre freebies to make you feel like you should "trust" them.
ficklepickle 8y ago
1) I saw the presentation, there was more info. These are just the slides. 2) he went over the specific security features. They really are improving things. NPM 6 has a bunch of very reasonable new security features. 3) he never said they were the best. He was actually fairly down to earth. He attributed npms speed increase to code sharing and working together with other package managers. 4) this was to keep everyone awake after 20 minutes of charts. It was a gag. It really was a good presentation. Hopefully the video is publically available at some point.
KenanSulayman 8y ago
The author (Laurie Voss) is the “co-founder / coo” of npm Inc.

snambi 8y ago

Yeah, it is very common in javascript kiddies world!

ficklepickle 8y ago
And expressing negative biases seems to be very common in the HN world. Say what you will about JS, I didn't see a single person being rude or dismissive towards another person during this conference.
- techntoke 8y ago
  Always being PC isn't a good thing. I see tech people being too nice to sales people, and a lot of those people aren't really interested in being a genuine friend. It's time that real developers in the tech industry decide to actually be passionate and support what they care about. Not about what some sales presentation tells you to care about while giving you mediocre freebies to make you feel like you should "trust" them.

ficklepickle 8y ago

1) I saw the presentation, there was more info. These are just the slides. 2) he went over the specific security features. They really are improving things. NPM 6 has a bunch of very reasonable new security features. 3) he never said they were the best. He was actually fairly down to earth. He attributed npms speed increase to code sharing and working together with other package managers. 4) this was to keep everyone awake after 20 minutes of charts. It was a gag. It really was a good presentation. Hopefully the video is publically available at some point.

KenanSulayman 8y ago

The author (Laurie Voss) is the “co-founder / coo” of npm Inc.