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I'm not okay with this. It is absolutely understandable that they want to remove the feed reader integrated into Firefox, that thing did not work well and I can
by onli 8y ago
I'm not okay with this. It is absolutely understandable that they want to remove the feed reader integrated into Firefox, that thing did not work well and I can understand that it was a lot of work. But the feed preview? If I understand correctly that's the proper display of the RSS/Atom feed itself when opened in Firefox, like https://www.pipes.digital/feed/14OE65qg https://www.pipes.digital/feed/14OE65qg, which should be properly parsed in your browser. That's the absolute core a browser has to deliver: Rendering web content properly and not just to show the source code. If Firefox can't deliver that, what else does it want to deliver on?
And removing this feature - like the missing feed detection in the UI - is what indeed can kills RSS, as it makes RSS inaccessible to users. Unlike the feed reader itself this can not be solved by webextensions.
- nebulous1 8y agoDoesn't parse it in Chrome
- onli 8y agoNot sure about that, but I thought chrome is not parsing/rendering RSS at all. It's part of the problem.
- nebulous1 8y agoYeah, chrome doesn't do anything with RSS. I was responding to you saying that this is part of "the absolute core a browser has to deliver", but if the most popular browser around doesn't do it then I don't see how you can argue that this will be a major failure of Firefox Also I don't agree that this necessarily can't be done a webextension. For instance you can have add-ons like this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/jsonview/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/jsonview/ so I assume the same would be true for RSS
- onli 8y agoOh, my point there was not that it is not possible. It should even be possible with an XLST stylesheet, though last I looked that was buggy. I wanted to express that you can't make RSS accessible to users if users have to install extensions to get a proper representation (and feedreader selection) when opening a feed. This stuff has to be built in to make RSS usable for the general public.
- nebulous1 8y agoI completely agree that this makes RSS less accessible. So really it depends on whether you see RSS as a core web technology, like HTML or JS. It's pretty clear that Mozilla do not, nor do Google. Personally I don't either, although I'll admit bias because I really seldom use it other than through automated means.