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Something seems odd about this story. I can see him dying in a botched interrogation or extraordinary rendition and it being covered up, or it was a successful

Something seems odd about this story. I can see him dying in a botched interrogation or extraordinary rendition and it being covered up, or it was a successful extraordinary rendition and he's back in a cell in Saudi Arabia, but if they just wanted him dead why would it take 15 people and why would they do it in their consulate? It seems like there are easier and more plausibly deniable methods employed to do that like a "botched robbery", fire, heart attack or car crash.

BinaryIdiot 8y ago
You seem to think thinking about this way too much, IMO. What's easier / cheaper? Paying a group of guys to just "go to X, kill him in the streets" or the whole "make it look like a car accident" route from movies? The former is easier, cheaper and quicker. I mean these people bankrolled the largest terror attack on US soil and we still do business with them, why would anyone care about a single journalist?
- mattnewport 8y ago
  It still seems odd, "go to X, kill him in the streets" takes one or maybe two assassin types not 15 agents and why would you do it in your consulate? There are lots of examples of suspicious deaths that look like possible assassinations. They don't usually look like this.
  - BinaryIdiot 8y ago
    > It still seems odd, "go to X, kill him in the streets" takes one or maybe two assassin types not 15 agents Maybe in the movies. The more people the less likely one of you takes much if any damage / death so it's safer that way. They may have wanted to cover most of the exits, too. > why would you do it in your consulate Because that's where he was? I won't pretend to know what their plan was but it probably wasn't anything too complicated. Just go, kill x, cut up, leave.
  - hollerith 8y ago
    >why would you do it in your consulate? A country not does have jurisdiction over embassies on its soil. Maybe the same thing applies to consulates. I.e., maybe killing people in a Saudi consulate is not technically a crime where the same actions on the streets of Turkey would be a crime under Turkish law.

BinaryIdiot 8y ago

You seem to think thinking about this way too much, IMO. What's easier / cheaper? Paying a group of guys to just "go to X, kill him in the streets" or the whole "make it look like a car accident" route from movies? The former is easier, cheaper and quicker. I mean these people bankrolled the largest terror attack on US soil and we still do business with them, why would anyone care about a single journalist?

mattnewport 8y ago
It still seems odd, "go to X, kill him in the streets" takes one or maybe two assassin types not 15 agents and why would you do it in your consulate? There are lots of examples of suspicious deaths that look like possible assassinations. They don't usually look like this.
- BinaryIdiot 8y ago
  > It still seems odd, "go to X, kill him in the streets" takes one or maybe two assassin types not 15 agents Maybe in the movies. The more people the less likely one of you takes much if any damage / death so it's safer that way. They may have wanted to cover most of the exits, too. > why would you do it in your consulate Because that's where he was? I won't pretend to know what their plan was but it probably wasn't anything too complicated. Just go, kill x, cut up, leave.
- hollerith 8y ago
  >why would you do it in your consulate? A country not does have jurisdiction over embassies on its soil. Maybe the same thing applies to consulates. I.e., maybe killing people in a Saudi consulate is not technically a crime where the same actions on the streets of Turkey would be a crime under Turkish law.