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According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_re..., Saudia Arabia

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_re..., Saudia Arabia forbids aircraft traveling to Israel from overflying Saudi airspace. Doesn't seem very friendly to me.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> Saudia Arabia forbids aircraft traveling to Israel from overflying Saudi airspace Anti-Israel, not (as) anti-Judaism. Saudi Arabia and Israel have a rough history. I know plenty of Jews who safely do business in the KSA. That said, they tend to stay within the larger cities of Riyadh and the more-liberal Jeddah.
- throw34583945 8y ago
  That's interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess pragmatic commerce finds a way. I thought it was more black and white.
  - ethbro 8y ago
    A friend from Bahrain put Middle East politics this way: 'Look at the Palestinians. Every country's government decries how poorly they've been treated, but none of them lift a finger to do anything about it.' In other words, money and business >> beliefs.
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- forapurpose 8y ago
  > Anti-Israel, not (as) anti-Judaism I think you are kidding yourself if you think religion doesn't play a major part in Israel's relations with the rest of the Mideast, on both sides. And elsewhere it's a complicated issue: Anti-Semites use that claim (anti-Israel, not anti-Jewish) as cover for and a dog-whistle for acting and talking against Jewish people; on the other hand. people criticizing Israel's behavior have been unfairly accused of being anti-Semitic. It's often very hard to separate the two motives based on objective fact. (And to make it more complex, anti-Semitic race nationalists, including at least some Nazis, have supported Israel because it fits their concept of national racial purity - 'Israel for Jews, the country I live in for <their racial self-identification>'.)
myth_drannon 8y ago
Doesn't apply to military aircraft. Both countries have some sort of military co-operation related to Iranian threat. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.
acjohnson55 8y ago
Read the lede. I would agree they're not "friendly", but I didn't use that word.
kingofpandora 8y ago
A commercial El-Al flight landed in Saudi a few years ago for emergency repairs. Israel and KSA both benefit from people thinking they hate one another. But they don't.
- rapsey 8y ago
  Exactly. It's pretty much an open secret Israel and SA even cooperate in an intelligence capacity. They do have a common enemy after all (Iran). The world is just full of contradictions with regards to what is common public knowledge and actual reality.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

> Saudia Arabia forbids aircraft traveling to Israel from overflying Saudi airspace Anti-Israel, not (as) anti-Judaism. Saudi Arabia and Israel have a rough history. I know plenty of Jews who safely do business in the KSA. That said, they tend to stay within the larger cities of Riyadh and the more-liberal Jeddah.

throw34583945 8y ago
That's interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess pragmatic commerce finds a way. I thought it was more black and white.
- ethbro 8y ago
  A friend from Bahrain put Middle East politics this way: 'Look at the Palestinians. Every country's government decries how poorly they've been treated, but none of them lift a finger to do anything about it.' In other words, money and business >> beliefs.
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forapurpose 8y ago
> Anti-Israel, not (as) anti-Judaism I think you are kidding yourself if you think religion doesn't play a major part in Israel's relations with the rest of the Mideast, on both sides. And elsewhere it's a complicated issue: Anti-Semites use that claim (anti-Israel, not anti-Jewish) as cover for and a dog-whistle for acting and talking against Jewish people; on the other hand. people criticizing Israel's behavior have been unfairly accused of being anti-Semitic. It's often very hard to separate the two motives based on objective fact. (And to make it more complex, anti-Semitic race nationalists, including at least some Nazis, have supported Israel because it fits their concept of national racial purity - 'Israel for Jews, the country I live in for <their racial self-identification>'.)

myth_drannon 8y ago

Doesn't apply to military aircraft. Both countries have some sort of military co-operation related to Iranian threat. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

acjohnson55 8y ago

Read the lede. I would agree they're not "friendly", but I didn't use that word.

kingofpandora 8y ago

A commercial El-Al flight landed in Saudi a few years ago for emergency repairs. Israel and KSA both benefit from people thinking they hate one another. But they don't.

rapsey 8y ago
Exactly. It's pretty much an open secret Israel and SA even cooperate in an intelligence capacity. They do have a common enemy after all (Iran). The world is just full of contradictions with regards to what is common public knowledge and actual reality.