> My point was actually to refute the implied point that something that relies on manual labor doesn't scale. That was not my point at all. My point was that t

> My point was actually to refute the implied point that something that relies on manual labor doesn't scale. That was not my point at all. My point was that there is zero economical demand for reforestation, you're not going to convince masses to plant enough trees. There is clear demand for deforestation, be it coal underneath, wood itself or a place to live. Yes, we need to stop deforestation, I did not say anything against that at all. Let's not see the world as black or white. > No matter how close you think these drones are to reality, this just simply does not exist, no one is funding this, and no one is building or running this. That is a problem we should solve, on top of others - like stopping deforestation. > On the contrary, going out and planting a tree is literally something that you can do today, and people do by the thousands and millions every year. And yet we're here talking about the problem that it's not nearly enough. > Technology is prima facie the reason this planet is threatened by our existence. Definitely. There is a huge demand for the ease of living technology offers. People are never going to let that be and live more frugally, never. That's why we need better technology - technology that can solve problems we've done and technology that is more clean. > God forbid someone suggest manual labor, working with our hands, and thinking seriously about how we've seriously, seriously fucked up. I agree with you but this is never going to happen. You're not going to convince masses about this, ever. Almost no one on the global scale is going to happily let go of their easy lives, much less do any significant manual labor. We need a solution that doesn't involve manual labor of tens of millions of people. And, to be honest, I find the expectation that people will think about their mistakes naive - I don't think they will even admit a mistake.