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> This is again one of those large company political things. Year long promotion packet building, lobbying your work with promotion committees, getting a willin

> This is again one of those large company political things. Year long promotion packet building, lobbying your work with promotion committees, getting a willing boss, and doing other routine political ground work to set you up for one. Honestly, I don't care enough about getting promoted to go through that whole rigmarole, nor would I quit a job over having to deal with that in order to get promoted. Of course, that's also probably why I don't work at a FAANG and never will.

twunde 8y ago
Keep in mind that at many companies the promotion isn't to manager but to the next class of engineering ie engineer I to engineer II. This is how you increase your pay. Also if you don't get promoted within a certain amount of time, some companies will manage you out
fernandotakai 8y ago
that's exactly what i thought -- getting a "promotion packet" is absurd. your promotion packet should be the job you have been doing all year long. then again, i hate office politics and i cannot see myself getting to close to this kind of big-company.
- rifung 8y ago
  > that's exactly what i thought -- getting a "promotion packet" is absurd. your promotion packet should be the job you have been doing all year long. I'm guessing you don't know how the process works? I'd like to give a summary so you have more context. Apologies if that's incorrect. Your promotion is decided by a promotion committee, who likely do not know you or what you do. This is done in an attempt to make promotions fair and objective across the company. That being the case, you need a promotion packet to describe what you've done to people who are basically strangers. Don't get me wrong, the process has many issues but I don't think it's fair to assess them without understanding their purposes and I don't think anyone I've seen who complains about it has been able to come up with something better.
rifung 8y ago
> Honestly, I don't care enough about getting promoted to go through that whole rigmarole, nor would I quit a job over having to deal with that in order to get promoted. Of course, that's also probably why I don't work at a FAANG and never will. I don't think you should let that stop you. I work at Google and don't care about promotion. I expect that I will get it sooner or later but really don't care if I do or not. I get paid enough to live a decent life already so I prefer having the freedom to do what I think matters as opposed to what's good for my career since sadly those don't align as much as they should.
- jexah 8y ago
  Here here, why require a raise if you're earning 250k+ a year? That's more than 99.9% of non-execs in most companies.

twunde 8y ago

Keep in mind that at many companies the promotion isn't to manager but to the next class of engineering ie engineer I to engineer II. This is how you increase your pay. Also if you don't get promoted within a certain amount of time, some companies will manage you out

fernandotakai 8y ago

that's exactly what i thought -- getting a "promotion packet" is absurd. your promotion packet should be the job you have been doing all year long. then again, i hate office politics and i cannot see myself getting to close to this kind of big-company.

rifung 8y ago
> that's exactly what i thought -- getting a "promotion packet" is absurd. your promotion packet should be the job you have been doing all year long. I'm guessing you don't know how the process works? I'd like to give a summary so you have more context. Apologies if that's incorrect. Your promotion is decided by a promotion committee, who likely do not know you or what you do. This is done in an attempt to make promotions fair and objective across the company. That being the case, you need a promotion packet to describe what you've done to people who are basically strangers. Don't get me wrong, the process has many issues but I don't think it's fair to assess them without understanding their purposes and I don't think anyone I've seen who complains about it has been able to come up with something better.

rifung 8y ago

> Honestly, I don't care enough about getting promoted to go through that whole rigmarole, nor would I quit a job over having to deal with that in order to get promoted. Of course, that's also probably why I don't work at a FAANG and never will. I don't think you should let that stop you. I work at Google and don't care about promotion. I expect that I will get it sooner or later but really don't care if I do or not. I get paid enough to live a decent life already so I prefer having the freedom to do what I think matters as opposed to what's good for my career since sadly those don't align as much as they should.

jexah 8y ago
Here here, why require a raise if you're earning 250k+ a year? That's more than 99.9% of non-execs in most companies.