3 ms·

Oh god, the EFI bug. I thought it was utterly absurd that some people on that mailing list defended that behavior and it really put me off Linux culture and the

• Karunamon 8y ago
  That's more a "freedesktop.com/systemd" culture and community than anything, thankfully. Their philosophy seems to be that if the user has a problem with something, the user is wrong.
  • jplayer01 8y ago
    Even if that may be the case, systemd has now afflicted every relevant distro. That means their community and their philosophy affects everybody else. Not great.
• JdeBP 8y ago
  What should put you off is people two and a half years later still wrongly ascribing this to systemd. And this even though, as noted at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11011399 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11011399 , OpenRC had been doing the very same thing. It wasn't a systemd thing. The people who relate the tale as if it were a systemd thing or something that the systemd people did are ill-informed. It was entirely a kernel thing. This was even stated outright at the time by the creator of that particular kernel mechanism. To learn the real story, go and read https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11152880 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11152880 where you will find Matthew Garrett xyrself participating in the discussion.
  • jplayer01 8y ago
    I actually remember reading exactly this discussion. So I was correct in my original assertion that Linux (as opposed to systemd) culture is batshit insane because of all the Linux/Unix people defending efivars/Lennart's decision to 'not workaround broken efi implemetations' that allowed rm rf / to break hardware.