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You could use an ntfs junction then nothing has to understand the settings.

yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
I was actually surprised that this isn't how redirection is implemented. Seems like an easy enough fix that would catch everything.
- wtallis 8y ago
  Microsoft prefers to never miss an opportunity to make their file browser lie about the state of the underlying filesystem.
  - detaro 8y ago
    In what way does explorer lie about the location of a redirected documents folder?
    - jplayer01 8y ago
      It's incredibly vague about where you actually are when you're using redirected known folders vs accessing the original folder.
      - deleted 8y ago
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      - detaro 8y ago
        It's always vague about the known folders, and hiding the details is arguably the point of them, so you have to teach users less if you move them around in a managed environment.
        jplayer01 8y ago
        This would be fine if two locations with the exact same address didn't exist.
        detaro 8y ago
        Not sure what you mean by "the exact same address"? At least from what I've seen "Documents" always points to exactly one folder, and explorer shows only a view of that folder?
        LeftTurnSignal 8y ago
        I've had two separate "Documents" folders on a few different machines before. I never used those folders, but they both showed up in my home directory and could contain different data. I'm sure they were something different if I dove deeper in cmd, but I never cared enough to figure it out.
        dragonwriter 8y ago
        Isn't Documents actually a library and the single default folder (and default default save location) in that library since Win 7?
        detaro 8y ago
        I had libraries hidden, so I had to check: there's both: the Documents folder, and a library that contains just that folder by default. So yeah, that seems unnecessarily confusing.
    - jenscow 8y ago
      > to make their file browser lie about the state of the underlying filesystem. Quick example... compare the results of these two commands: dir C:\Windows\Web\Wallpaper explorer C:\Windows\Web\Wallpaper
      - Multicomp 8y ago
        Someone ELI5 this if you please. I got the same results at first and second glance.
        no_news_is 8y ago
        I was expecting to, after your comment. I was surprised. https://imgur.com/a/EDiOkXK https://imgur.com/a/EDiOkXK
      - drbawb 8y ago
        I can't reply directly to Multicomp, but: https://i.imgur.com/KksKcLk.png https://i.imgur.com/KksKcLk.png demonstrates your point on my machine. That's pretty funny, actually.
stinky613 8y ago
Is there a way to create/manage an NTFS junction other than CLI?
- loa-in-backup 8y ago
  There is no option in windows explorer, no.
  - Iwan-Zotow 8y ago
    Link Shell Extensions http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/linkshellextension.html http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/linkshellextensi...
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I was actually surprised that this isn't how redirection is implemented. Seems like an easy enough fix that would catch everything.

wtallis 8y ago
Microsoft prefers to never miss an opportunity to make their file browser lie about the state of the underlying filesystem.
- detaro 8y ago
  In what way does explorer lie about the location of a redirected documents folder?
  - jplayer01 8y ago
    It's incredibly vague about where you actually are when you're using redirected known folders vs accessing the original folder.
    - deleted 8y ago
      [deleted]
    - detaro 8y ago
      It's always vague about the known folders, and hiding the details is arguably the point of them, so you have to teach users less if you move them around in a managed environment.
      - jplayer01 8y ago
        This would be fine if two locations with the exact same address didn't exist.
        detaro 8y ago
        Not sure what you mean by "the exact same address"? At least from what I've seen "Documents" always points to exactly one folder, and explorer shows only a view of that folder?
        LeftTurnSignal 8y ago
        I've had two separate "Documents" folders on a few different machines before. I never used those folders, but they both showed up in my home directory and could contain different data. I'm sure they were something different if I dove deeper in cmd, but I never cared enough to figure it out.
        dragonwriter 8y ago
        Isn't Documents actually a library and the single default folder (and default default save location) in that library since Win 7?
        detaro 8y ago
        I had libraries hidden, so I had to check: there's both: the Documents folder, and a library that contains just that folder by default. So yeah, that seems unnecessarily confusing.
  - jenscow 8y ago
    > to make their file browser lie about the state of the underlying filesystem. Quick example... compare the results of these two commands: dir C:\Windows\Web\Wallpaper explorer C:\Windows\Web\Wallpaper
    - Multicomp 8y ago
      Someone ELI5 this if you please. I got the same results at first and second glance.
      - no_news_is 8y ago
        I was expecting to, after your comment. I was surprised. https://imgur.com/a/EDiOkXK https://imgur.com/a/EDiOkXK
    - drbawb 8y ago
      I can't reply directly to Multicomp, but: https://i.imgur.com/KksKcLk.png https://i.imgur.com/KksKcLk.png demonstrates your point on my machine. That's pretty funny, actually.

stinky613 8y ago

Is there a way to create/manage an NTFS junction other than CLI?

loa-in-backup 8y ago
There is no option in windows explorer, no.
- Iwan-Zotow 8y ago
  Link Shell Extensions http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/linkshellextension.html http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/linkshellextensi...

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