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I'm a product designer and not a programmer but for what it's worth, I think you're really on to something here. Zolang strikes me as a very powerful coupling w

I'm a product designer and not a programmer but for what it's worth, I think you're really on to something here. Zolang strikes me as a very powerful coupling with Rust, in particular in GUI development. I'm not judging your programming based on its syntax or standard library but rather by its problem statement. The most notoriously difficult problem in GUI development is cross-platform. It's a holy grail within software development. Every major company is taking an increasingly larger stake in this race and a few like Qt are selling it directly as their core product. Zolang sounds like it could be a bit like Elm or Flutter, but one layer above, able to orchestrate a little bit of platform-specific glue code where it's always gonna be necessary. The programming language landscape is extremely tough. It's very hard to beat any language on language features alone. You also gotta compete with its community, its libraries, the enterprise support and so forth. You gotta carve out a really special niche for yourself, your very own domain. And I think Zolang's domain should be GUI development.

cheez 8y ago
This may come across as rude, so I apologize in advance, but... You sound very optimistic and so clearly are not a programmer.
- rubyn00bie 8y ago
  The same could be said about your comment as this sort of dialogue, or rather lack of, is what perpetuates stagnation. We’d still be writing assembly if weren’t for optimism by engineers. I think if anything we need loftier goals and more optimism to solve problems. /shrug
  - cheez 8y ago
    The person I replied to is not an engineer. He is an optimistic non-engineer. Maybe he will change the world, but more than likely, he is the standard "use machine learning to solve this impossible problem in 2 weeks" type. (I'm dealing with a client doing just this right now.)
thepumpkin1979 8y ago
OP, this is the comment you should be paying attention to. The (now downvoted to oblivion) counterpart to this comment sounds a lot like the top comment on Dropbox “Show HN” of it’s time: a totally engineered reasoning with zero core product value thinking [0]. Instead you should go deep, as in digging a hole or “Well”[1]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 [1] http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html (special emphasis on the the “Well” section)
- cheez 8y ago
  I disagree that it's analogous (surprised that it would be considered so). I made no comment on the merits of Zolang. I responded to an unaffiliated third party about _his_ comment being optimistic.

cheez 8y ago

This may come across as rude, so I apologize in advance, but... You sound very optimistic and so clearly are not a programmer.

rubyn00bie 8y ago
The same could be said about your comment as this sort of dialogue, or rather lack of, is what perpetuates stagnation. We’d still be writing assembly if weren’t for optimism by engineers. I think if anything we need loftier goals and more optimism to solve problems. /shrug
- cheez 8y ago
  The person I replied to is not an engineer. He is an optimistic non-engineer. Maybe he will change the world, but more than likely, he is the standard "use machine learning to solve this impossible problem in 2 weeks" type. (I'm dealing with a client doing just this right now.)

thepumpkin1979 8y ago

OP, this is the comment you should be paying attention to. The (now downvoted to oblivion) counterpart to this comment sounds a lot like the top comment on Dropbox “Show HN” of it’s time: a totally engineered reasoning with zero core product value thinking [0]. Instead you should go deep, as in digging a hole or “Well”[1]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 [1] http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html (special emphasis on the the “Well” section)

cheez 8y ago
I disagree that it's analogous (surprised that it would be considered so). I made no comment on the merits of Zolang. I responded to an unaffiliated third party about _his_ comment being optimistic.