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Most of the world considers Taiwan (a.k.a. "Republic of China") to be a distinct country. The mainland Chinese government disagrees. I don't know about these

Most of the world considers Taiwan (a.k.a. "Republic of China") to be a distinct country. The mainland Chinese government disagrees. I don't know about these particular tariffs, but I believe the U.S. would not consider tariffs aimed at (mainland) China to apply to Taiwan.

Symmetry 8y ago
The RoC consider themselves the rightful "China" too. Some Taiwanese politicians have advocated declaring themselves an independent country but that's never been the official government position.
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- baybal2 8y ago
  Eh? Chen Shuibian did declare independence, like 10 times
- e3b0c 8y ago
  > The RoC consider themselves the rightful "China" too. That's a minority/extremity opinion which isn't remotely prevalent even among those who feel intimate with China. It used to be the 'political-correct' belief held by the former authoritarian ruling party. But it's not considered a rational worldview anymore after its democratic modernization.
zanmat0 8y ago
Most of the world? Not in any official sense.
- ardy42 8y ago
  > Most of the world? Not in any official sense. There are things that are de facto true, even if they're not de jure true.
  - commandar 8y ago
    One things that can be confusing/frustrating to many people about geopolitics is that there's a substantial body of "agreed upon" fiction. These are positions that are held officially by numerous, competing state actors that, while factually untrue, hold value to each. The status of Taiwan is one. Israel's nuclear status is another famous example. While the common sense reaction is "everybody knows it, why pretend?" those fictions generally exist because they help maintain delicate balances and order between parties that are generally at odds with one another. What it comes down to is that it'd be lovely if we could all just say openly and outright that mainland China and Taiwan are separate entities, because, in practice, they are. But it's also pretty swimming for the global community for the PPRC and ROC to both claim that they're the real China while everyone does business with each other anyway. So while it's true that they're distinct and it's also true that everyone knows that to be the case, everyone also wins out to varying degrees by officially pretending that it isn't the case.

Symmetry 8y ago

The RoC consider themselves the rightful "China" too. Some Taiwanese politicians have advocated declaring themselves an independent country but that's never been the official government position.

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baybal2 8y ago
Eh? Chen Shuibian did declare independence, like 10 times
e3b0c 8y ago
> The RoC consider themselves the rightful "China" too. That's a minority/extremity opinion which isn't remotely prevalent even among those who feel intimate with China. It used to be the 'political-correct' belief held by the former authoritarian ruling party. But it's not considered a rational worldview anymore after its democratic modernization.

zanmat0 8y ago

Most of the world? Not in any official sense.

ardy42 8y ago
> Most of the world? Not in any official sense. There are things that are de facto true, even if they're not de jure true.
- commandar 8y ago
  One things that can be confusing/frustrating to many people about geopolitics is that there's a substantial body of "agreed upon" fiction. These are positions that are held officially by numerous, competing state actors that, while factually untrue, hold value to each. The status of Taiwan is one. Israel's nuclear status is another famous example. While the common sense reaction is "everybody knows it, why pretend?" those fictions generally exist because they help maintain delicate balances and order between parties that are generally at odds with one another. What it comes down to is that it'd be lovely if we could all just say openly and outright that mainland China and Taiwan are separate entities, because, in practice, they are. But it's also pretty swimming for the global community for the PPRC and ROC to both claim that they're the real China while everyone does business with each other anyway. So while it's true that they're distinct and it's also true that everyone knows that to be the case, everyone also wins out to varying degrees by officially pretending that it isn't the case.