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Just to provide a counter-perspective, I am actually happy every time I see someone drawing attention to this problem. If enough people draw attention to it, r

Just to provide a counter-perspective, I am actually happy every time I see someone drawing attention to this problem. If enough people draw attention to it, rather than trying to ignore it and hope it goes away, maybe society will start trying to solve the problem.

DoreenMichele 8y ago
Drawing attention to the problem and making the observation in question aren't identical behaviors. I frequently engage in meta discussion on such topics. To draw on a common startup meme: Ideas are nothing. Execution is everything.
- epicureanideal 8y ago
  But execution before the "market" is ready for the "product" can lead to failure when better timing would've led to success. Perhaps we could look at drawing attention to the problem as a sort of "demand generation" or "marketing", preparing the market so when a product (solution) is offered it is more readily embraced? Maybe we could think of it like moving people from looking at the solution as a "vitamin" to looking at it as a "painkiller"?
  - DoreenMichele 8y ago
    A. You are missing my point. B. Generally speaking, I don't take painkillers. Studies suggest that, in most cases, they drag out the problem. So, to try one more time to communicate, how you comment on it matters. Comments like Welp, somebody is tired of their career... de facto agree that it is reasonable for society to react by destroying someone's career for asking such a question. I get the impetus there. I'm highly prone to that same impetus. But long experience suggests it is counterproductive. It's much better to make more reserved observations, such as noting that this is a controversial topic, people have had their careers ruined for trying to talk about it, etc. Anyway, I wasn't trying to shoot you down and [additional polite noises]. Best.

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Just to provide a counter-perspective, I am actually happy every time I see someone drawing attention to this problem. If enough people draw attention to it, r

by epicureanideal 8y ago

DoreenMichele 8y ago
Drawing attention to the problem and making the observation in question aren't identical behaviors. I frequently engage in meta discussion on such topics. To draw on a common startup meme: Ideas are nothing. Execution is everything.
- epicureanideal 8y ago
  But execution before the "market" is ready for the "product" can lead to failure when better timing would've led to success. Perhaps we could look at drawing attention to the problem as a sort of "demand generation" or "marketing", preparing the market so when a product (solution) is offered it is more readily embraced? Maybe we could think of it like moving people from looking at the solution as a "vitamin" to looking at it as a "painkiller"?
  - DoreenMichele 8y ago
    A. You are missing my point. B. Generally speaking, I don't take painkillers. Studies suggest that, in most cases, they drag out the problem. So, to try one more time to communicate, how you comment on it matters. Comments like Welp, somebody is tired of their career... de facto agree that it is reasonable for society to react by destroying someone's career for asking such a question. I get the impetus there. I'm highly prone to that same impetus. But long experience suggests it is counterproductive. It's much better to make more reserved observations, such as noting that this is a controversial topic, people have had their careers ruined for trying to talk about it, etc. Anyway, I wasn't trying to shoot you down and [additional polite noises]. Best.