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> Scientists are pretty much universally convinced, the only ones who aren't are paid by big oil and the Koch brothers - that means they are lying for money. T
by shard972 8y ago
> Scientists are pretty much universally convinced, the only ones who aren't are paid by big oil and the Koch brothers - that means they are lying for money.
Thats actually just wrong and shows how closed minded people are to how science works. Even if they were paid by big oil, shouldn't their evidence stand on it's own merits? Just like the claims made by scientists?
And no, I don't buy your false equivalence because the earth being round or gravity existing is empirically proved. Climate science has not and probably will not be ever proved on that level. If we could, then weather forecasts would also be perfect because we would be able to perfectly model exactly how the climate works but we don't, we strive every day to try and model the future better.
Just to give you a recent example: https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/30277-climate-alarmists-temperature-data-erroneous-and-incomplete-says-researcher https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/30277-c...
Can you show me how much hes being paid by big oil to do this? Or how all of the issues he found are just BS? Or maybe it's not exactly true that all researchers are all on the exact same page the media is typically on?
- c0nducktr 8y agoIt's actually not wrong. https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
- shard972 8y agoIt just links to J. Cook, et al which i've read and it doesn't say that 97% agree that the earth is warming and man is responsible for it. Maybe you should read it.
- my_username_is_ 8y agoConsidering that we aren't sure that the mathematical equations that govern fluid dynamics can be fully solved in 3 dimensions, I don't buy your statement that weather forecasts would be solved easily if we could just figure out if global warming is happening.
- Latteland 8y agoI do think that pretty much all reputable scientists do believe it. But another thing that serious scientists do is publish in accepted journals. I hadn't heard of the new american, but a quick search on the site found an article saying that Martin Luther King wasn't really a pacifist- he actually wanted to encourage violence, and also something lauding the John Birch Society. So reading the article you linked about some who thinks everyone else is wrong about global warming leads me to doubt his veracity, based in part on the other ridiculous views therein.