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> The Arab Spring was the the high point of this positivity - a visceral example of the power of digitalised free speech. Yes, millions of refugees is obviousl
by est 8y ago
> The Arab Spring was the the high point of this positivity - a visceral example of the power of digitalised free speech.
Yes, millions of refugees is obviously not the consequence at all.
- rdtsc 8y agoEverything else was rather unsurprising, pretty much what I expected. But that was the part that I had to read again. Hoping they just copied that from a 2013 pamphlet. If they consider Libya's slave markets ( https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/africa/libya-migrant-auctions/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/africa/libya-migrant-auctions... ) and Sirya the high point of positivity, I'd wonder what they consider the low point.
- zethraeus 8y agoThis is a reasonable point to make as a consequentialist with 20/20 hindsight. But it's fair to value the act of getting freedom from oppressive regimes as a good in itself independent of the power vacuum it creates. And it's fair to assess a movement based on its priors of a possible positive outcome, rather than the purely retrospectively once they haven't come to pass.