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Apple hater or Apple lover, I don't think anyone can disagree about their laptops and their Mac Mini being masterpieces of engineering. Really amazing compactne

Apple hater or Apple lover, I don't think anyone can disagree about their laptops and their Mac Mini being masterpieces of engineering. Really amazing compactness.

mahmud 16y ago
You can love Apple products and hate Apple policies.
- WozRocks 16y ago
  Actually, you can't. People who "hate apple's policies" are people who hate apple for ideological reasons and are attempting to rationalize it. If you understand apple's policies you'll realize that all of them are designed to produce the best user experience for consumers. I've never seen apple do something malicious, like I have Dell and Microsoft, nor betray their customers, like I have seen Microsoft, Google and Facebook do. These "policies" that people hate generally amount to nothing more than failing to march according to some rigid stallmanesque ideology.
  - ghotli 16y ago
    "WozRocks", your bias is showing.
    - mahmud 16y ago
      I thought it was a troll account created only 12 hours ago, to give "Apple fans" a bad name. To be fair to "WozRocks" though, I, personally, am kind of an Apple hater ;-) so his/her comments might not be without a context.
      - deleted 16y ago
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      - WozRocks 16y ago
        While I appreciate you calling me a troll and then saying "to be fair" your response is still argument to the person, and thus you are an example of why hacker news is a place where intelligent discussion is difficult. You are a detriment to this site. Of course, you are so wrapped up in your bigotry that you will never see it. You must project your own failures on others, and call them "Trolls". You are an Apple hater because you are not a hacker, you are a poser, of the kind that has come to infest sites like this, bringing down the level of discussion to the point where no actual hacker discussion goes on. In fact, last one I saw, you came in and attacked the questioner and pissed your ignorance all over the thread managing to successfully derail it. If that is not the definition of a troll, I don't know what is.
    - WozRocks 16y ago
      Argument to the person, therefore, you concede the point. Your argument to the person, rather than to the issue at hand is why hacker news is a place where proper discussion is rare when it comes to apple products.

Apple hater or Apple lover, I don't think anyone can disagree about their laptops and their Mac Mini being masterpieces of engineering. Really amazing compactness.

mahmud 16y ago

You can love Apple products and hate Apple policies.

WozRocks 16y ago
Actually, you can't. People who "hate apple's policies" are people who hate apple for ideological reasons and are attempting to rationalize it. If you understand apple's policies you'll realize that all of them are designed to produce the best user experience for consumers. I've never seen apple do something malicious, like I have Dell and Microsoft, nor betray their customers, like I have seen Microsoft, Google and Facebook do. These "policies" that people hate generally amount to nothing more than failing to march according to some rigid stallmanesque ideology.
- ghotli 16y ago
  "WozRocks", your bias is showing.
  - mahmud 16y ago
    I thought it was a troll account created only 12 hours ago, to give "Apple fans" a bad name. To be fair to "WozRocks" though, I, personally, am kind of an Apple hater ;-) so his/her comments might not be without a context.
    - deleted 16y ago
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    - WozRocks 16y ago
      While I appreciate you calling me a troll and then saying "to be fair" your response is still argument to the person, and thus you are an example of why hacker news is a place where intelligent discussion is difficult. You are a detriment to this site. Of course, you are so wrapped up in your bigotry that you will never see it. You must project your own failures on others, and call them "Trolls". You are an Apple hater because you are not a hacker, you are a poser, of the kind that has come to infest sites like this, bringing down the level of discussion to the point where no actual hacker discussion goes on. In fact, last one I saw, you came in and attacked the questioner and pissed your ignorance all over the thread managing to successfully derail it. If that is not the definition of a troll, I don't know what is.
  - WozRocks 16y ago
    Argument to the person, therefore, you concede the point. Your argument to the person, rather than to the issue at hand is why hacker news is a place where proper discussion is rare when it comes to apple products.