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I'd bet that is a much greater of indicator of your real taste (and what they can get you to binge) vs. the taste you want people to perceive you as having via

by werber 8y ago

I'd bet that is a much greater of indicator of your real taste (and what they can get you to binge) vs. the taste you want people to perceive you as having via ranking

WalterSear 8y ago
Perhaps even better than what you think you like yourself.
- Alterlife 8y ago
  What you would like to watch. What you actually watch. This is why I hate YouTube recommendations. It feeds my monkey brain.
  - WalterSear 8y ago
    I hate them because they are clearly trying to feed someone else's monkey brain.
  - kennxfl 8y ago
    If you know mechanics a company is using to extract your attention, it's your responsibility to account for that when using their services. Except for kids, and there are laws against advertising directly to them. It's a lost cause fighting advertising.
nathan_long 8y ago
> your real taste (and what they can get you to binge) vs. the taste you want people to perceive you as having via ranking You make this sound like a question of honesty vs pretense, but "what they can get you to binge" reveals a different set of motives. It's sometimes a question of self-control. I want to be healthy. I also want to eat junk food. What do I "really" want? Imagine an online grocery store which noticed they could profit more by hiding healthy options from me and selling me more junk. Would their AI be acting according to my "real taste"? In a sense, yes. Would it be serving my best interests? No. If Netflix can entice someone to binge watch TV all weekend, does that mean that's what they "really" wanted? Every AI serves someone's interests. It's important to ask whose. And if you want to make an AI that truly serves your users (rather than exploiting them), give them explicit control. Stop with this "we know you better than you know yourself" nonsense. Let them say things like, "yes, I watched that movie / bought that candy, but I wish I hadn't. Please don't use that for future recommendations."

by werber 8y ago

I'd bet that is a much greater of indicator of your real taste (and what they can get you to binge) vs. the taste you want people to perceive you as having via ranking

WalterSear 8y ago

Perhaps even better than what you think you like yourself.

Alterlife 8y ago
What you would like to watch. What you actually watch. This is why I hate YouTube recommendations. It feeds my monkey brain.
- WalterSear 8y ago
  I hate them because they are clearly trying to feed someone else's monkey brain.
- kennxfl 8y ago
  If you know mechanics a company is using to extract your attention, it's your responsibility to account for that when using their services. Except for kids, and there are laws against advertising directly to them. It's a lost cause fighting advertising.

nathan_long 8y ago

> your real taste (and what they can get you to binge) vs. the taste you want people to perceive you as having via ranking You make this sound like a question of honesty vs pretense, but "what they can get you to binge" reveals a different set of motives. It's sometimes a question of self-control. I want to be healthy. I also want to eat junk food. What do I "really" want? Imagine an online grocery store which noticed they could profit more by hiding healthy options from me and selling me more junk. Would their AI be acting according to my "real taste"? In a sense, yes. Would it be serving my best interests? No. If Netflix can entice someone to binge watch TV all weekend, does that mean that's what they "really" wanted? Every AI serves someone's interests. It's important to ask whose. And if you want to make an AI that truly serves your users (rather than exploiting them), give them explicit control. Stop with this "we know you better than you know yourself" nonsense. Let them say things like, "yes, I watched that movie / bought that candy, but I wish I hadn't. Please don't use that for future recommendations."