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Just not true. I fly all the time for work (4 flights a week), KLM eve announce that you can enable Bluetooth once flight safe mode is enabled and use Bluetooth

by gehsty 8y ago

Just not true. I fly all the time for work (4 flights a week), KLM eve announce that you can enable Bluetooth once flight safe mode is enabled and use Bluetooth headphones.

viraptor 8y ago
That's KLM-specific. There are no messages like that on many other airlines and the whole idea of airplane mode is RF protection. I'm happy that they basically say: it's bullshit, just ignore it, but officially most airlines still request no Bluetooth.
- gehsty 8y ago
  I have not been asked to switch Bluetooth off specifically on any flight. They ask that you enter flight safe mode. After that provided flight safe mode is on they don’t give any further instruction. On an iPhone at least you can enable Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and remain in flight safe mode. Many flight have Wi-Fi now, considerably more powerful than Bluetooth....how do they work safely?
  - viraptor 8y ago
    My cynical answer would be: it never really mattered, so this is a way to allow new tech without scraping the whole idea. Especially given the number of possible radio bands and nobody publishing what the protested ranges were supposed to be.
    - gehsty 8y ago
      Regardless of it mattering or not it is simply not true that that you cannot use them on flights, airlines actually announce that you can use them during safety announcements.
      - viraptor 8y ago
        Again: some airlines do.
        gehsty 8y ago
        Some airlines make announcements, they are allowed on all airlines I have travelled on in the last 2yrs (when I started travelling a lot..) I mean I don’t think I can prove that literally every airline does allow Bluetooth headphones, but see previous comments where the FAA approved Bluetooth headphones for use in 2013, maybe you could provide a specific airline which does not allow Bluetooth headphones?
aarongolliver 8y ago
2013 FAA allowed Bluetooth and wifi on flights[0]. Here's a recent article on the subject of what the major airlines will allow [1]. And a screenshot for doubters of me activating Bluetooth while in airplane-safe mode, which has been a feature of every modern phone me and my friends have [2]. [0] https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=15254 https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsI... [1] https://traveltips.usatoday.com/rules-using-bluetooth-airplane-109323.html https://traveltips.usatoday.com/rules-using-bluetooth-airpla... [2] https://photos.app.goo.gl/riJejAkyxp9MRpsi7 https://photos.app.goo.gl/riJejAkyxp9MRpsi7

by gehsty 8y ago

Just not true. I fly all the time for work (4 flights a week), KLM eve announce that you can enable Bluetooth once flight safe mode is enabled and use Bluetooth headphones.

viraptor 8y ago

That's KLM-specific. There are no messages like that on many other airlines and the whole idea of airplane mode is RF protection. I'm happy that they basically say: it's bullshit, just ignore it, but officially most airlines still request no Bluetooth.

gehsty 8y ago
I have not been asked to switch Bluetooth off specifically on any flight. They ask that you enter flight safe mode. After that provided flight safe mode is on they don’t give any further instruction. On an iPhone at least you can enable Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and remain in flight safe mode. Many flight have Wi-Fi now, considerably more powerful than Bluetooth....how do they work safely?
- viraptor 8y ago
  My cynical answer would be: it never really mattered, so this is a way to allow new tech without scraping the whole idea. Especially given the number of possible radio bands and nobody publishing what the protested ranges were supposed to be.
  - gehsty 8y ago
    Regardless of it mattering or not it is simply not true that that you cannot use them on flights, airlines actually announce that you can use them during safety announcements.
    - viraptor 8y ago
      Again: some airlines do.
      - gehsty 8y ago
        Some airlines make announcements, they are allowed on all airlines I have travelled on in the last 2yrs (when I started travelling a lot..) I mean I don’t think I can prove that literally every airline does allow Bluetooth headphones, but see previous comments where the FAA approved Bluetooth headphones for use in 2013, maybe you could provide a specific airline which does not allow Bluetooth headphones?

aarongolliver 8y ago

2013 FAA allowed Bluetooth and wifi on flights[0]. Here's a recent article on the subject of what the major airlines will allow [1]. And a screenshot for doubters of me activating Bluetooth while in airplane-safe mode, which has been a feature of every modern phone me and my friends have [2]. [0] https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=15254 https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsI... [1] https://traveltips.usatoday.com/rules-using-bluetooth-airplane-109323.html https://traveltips.usatoday.com/rules-using-bluetooth-airpla... [2] https://photos.app.goo.gl/riJejAkyxp9MRpsi7 https://photos.app.goo.gl/riJejAkyxp9MRpsi7