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In the video he portrays the decision as out of respect for the sources under NDA, not out of respect for Intel Not sure I fully get it though, a scoop is a sc

In the video he portrays the decision as out of respect for the sources under NDA, not out of respect for Intel Not sure I fully get it though, a scoop is a scoop

wtallis 8y ago
The point of a review embargo is to prevent things from collapsing into a race to be first with the scoop, by encouraging/forcing everyone to take a reasonable amount of time to prepare their review. Cooperating with review embargoes is usually the best way to promote honest and fair coverage, which is what most professional tech journalists really want. NDAs that try to restrict the content of a review and not just the publication date are reprehensible, but that doesn't seem to be what's going on here. Intel's just trying to soften the ground with their own misleading numbers, but still permitting the trustworthy sources to do their usual thing.
- cma 8y ago
  That isn't always the point of a review embargo. Take a game with heavy marketing that the corp realizes is going to get bad reviews. Sometimes they will delay reviews of things like that as long as possible, until day before or day of release.
  - wtallis 8y ago
    The computer hardware market is pretty different from the video game market. Video games tend to be much more reliant on pre-orders and the first few weeks of sales, while computer hardware is subject to seasonal fluctuations but otherwise maintains strong ongoing sales throughout the product cycle. Games are also much less amenable to objective comparative analysis. In the computer hardware world, a review embargo that coincides with the product hitting the shelves does not carry any negative connotations about expectations for the product's reception.
    - gowld 8y ago
      Anyone who pre-orders a video game is buying for some speial sense of status, not product quality.
      - brokenmachine 8y ago
        I'm not a big gamer, but aren't they often cheaper if you pre-order?
  - Bartweiss 8y ago
    Notably, the video game industry pioneered the conditional embargo - where you can publish a review freely as long as it's above a certain score. There's pretty much no explanation for this other than "we want to lie to customers", and there's pretty much no definition of journalistic integrity that would permit signing it, but it happens nevertheless. (Which, interestingly, means some sites that don't issue numeric scores are barred-by-default from those games. I think that's sometimes been used to spot these embargoes?)
- gowld 8y ago
  Intel is violating the embargo in order to give primay to their false narrative. That's odious.

In the video he portrays the decision as out of respect for the sources under NDA, not out of respect for Intel Not sure I fully get it though, a scoop is a scoop

wtallis 8y ago

The point of a review embargo is to prevent things from collapsing into a race to be first with the scoop, by encouraging/forcing everyone to take a reasonable amount of time to prepare their review. Cooperating with review embargoes is usually the best way to promote honest and fair coverage, which is what most professional tech journalists really want. NDAs that try to restrict the content of a review and not just the publication date are reprehensible, but that doesn't seem to be what's going on here. Intel's just trying to soften the ground with their own misleading numbers, but still permitting the trustworthy sources to do their usual thing.

cma 8y ago
That isn't always the point of a review embargo. Take a game with heavy marketing that the corp realizes is going to get bad reviews. Sometimes they will delay reviews of things like that as long as possible, until day before or day of release.
- wtallis 8y ago
  The computer hardware market is pretty different from the video game market. Video games tend to be much more reliant on pre-orders and the first few weeks of sales, while computer hardware is subject to seasonal fluctuations but otherwise maintains strong ongoing sales throughout the product cycle. Games are also much less amenable to objective comparative analysis. In the computer hardware world, a review embargo that coincides with the product hitting the shelves does not carry any negative connotations about expectations for the product's reception.
  - gowld 8y ago
    Anyone who pre-orders a video game is buying for some speial sense of status, not product quality.
    - brokenmachine 8y ago
      I'm not a big gamer, but aren't they often cheaper if you pre-order?
- Bartweiss 8y ago
  Notably, the video game industry pioneered the conditional embargo - where you can publish a review freely as long as it's above a certain score. There's pretty much no explanation for this other than "we want to lie to customers", and there's pretty much no definition of journalistic integrity that would permit signing it, but it happens nevertheless. (Which, interestingly, means some sites that don't issue numeric scores are barred-by-default from those games. I think that's sometimes been used to spot these embargoes?)
gowld 8y ago
Intel is violating the embargo in order to give primay to their false narrative. That's odious.