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Individually they get the worst deal. Just ask average Joe to do business with a big corporation and see what kind of deal he gets.

expertentipp 8y ago
Acting as a union Germany, France, and UK would get everything, some hand outs for Spain and Italy, any profits skillfully funeled through Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, and Netherlands. The general population getting low quality tat "Made in China".
- emn13 8y ago
  Somewhat aside: it's a bit of a shame the netherlands gets the blame in these tax-dodging stories, because the issue is actually that laws differ between countries (i.e. countries with laws identical to the netherlands aren't vulnerable to the tax dodge), and as it so happens, the netherlands' tax system is... not quite as crappy as that of most other countries. Still crappy, mind you. Just not as bad. I.e. the appropriate solution would be for (e.g., to pick on a particularly bad tax code) the US and germany to simply dump their tax codes wholesale and copy the Netherlands, rather than the converse. Because seriously, some tax codes are just asking to be abused. Plug this hole, wait for the next one... The cynical side of me doesn't think it's coincidental that the loopholes are so gaping. Oh well.
vetinari 8y ago
Right now, industries in Eastern Europe are "not allowed" to trade directly with China, India or Russia. Anything they produce and is sold outside EU must go through German or other western company. Guess where the profits stay. See also sanctions against Russia: the trade of everyone _except Germany_ went down; overall the trade is the same. Cui bono?
- gruez 8y ago
  >Right now, industries in Eastern Europe are "not allowed" to trade directly with China, India or Russia source?
- bushin 8y ago
  > Cui bono? Belarus.
- anonymousDan 8y ago
  This is such BS. Can you provide evidence?
- raverbashing 8y ago
  Looks like the fake news production is in full power
  - vetinari 8y ago
    Yeah, sure. And the fact that Bulgaria with Hungary cannot have their gas pipeline (South Stream), but Germany can (Nord Stream 2), is just another piece of fake news. Right? It is certainly not about who will control the trade, everything is just coincidence. Sure thing.
- Latteland 8y ago
  It is wrong that they can't trade with China. Billions of dollars a month go to China to Europe in trade.

expertentipp 8y ago

Acting as a union Germany, France, and UK would get everything, some hand outs for Spain and Italy, any profits skillfully funeled through Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, and Netherlands. The general population getting low quality tat "Made in China".

emn13 8y ago
Somewhat aside: it's a bit of a shame the netherlands gets the blame in these tax-dodging stories, because the issue is actually that laws differ between countries (i.e. countries with laws identical to the netherlands aren't vulnerable to the tax dodge), and as it so happens, the netherlands' tax system is... not quite as crappy as that of most other countries. Still crappy, mind you. Just not as bad. I.e. the appropriate solution would be for (e.g., to pick on a particularly bad tax code) the US and germany to simply dump their tax codes wholesale and copy the Netherlands, rather than the converse. Because seriously, some tax codes are just asking to be abused. Plug this hole, wait for the next one... The cynical side of me doesn't think it's coincidental that the loopholes are so gaping. Oh well.

vetinari 8y ago

Right now, industries in Eastern Europe are "not allowed" to trade directly with China, India or Russia. Anything they produce and is sold outside EU must go through German or other western company. Guess where the profits stay. See also sanctions against Russia: the trade of everyone _except Germany_ went down; overall the trade is the same. Cui bono?

gruez 8y ago
>Right now, industries in Eastern Europe are "not allowed" to trade directly with China, India or Russia source?
bushin 8y ago
> Cui bono? Belarus.
anonymousDan 8y ago
This is such BS. Can you provide evidence?
raverbashing 8y ago
Looks like the fake news production is in full power
- vetinari 8y ago
  Yeah, sure. And the fact that Bulgaria with Hungary cannot have their gas pipeline (South Stream), but Germany can (Nord Stream 2), is just another piece of fake news. Right? It is certainly not about who will control the trade, everything is just coincidence. Sure thing.
Latteland 8y ago
It is wrong that they can't trade with China. Billions of dollars a month go to China to Europe in trade.