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I feel this is a bit sensationalized. If one didn't want to put up with Toronto housing prices, there are many other affordable choices within 1-2h drive from T

by lamlam 8y ago

I feel this is a bit sensationalized. If one didn't want to put up with Toronto housing prices, there are many other affordable choices within 1-2h drive from Toronto. No need to pack up and move to Winnipeg which, btw, is the murder capital of the country [1]. And this is in a year that Toronto is seeing some of its worst gun violence since the mid 2000s. [1] https://globalnews.ca/news/4347007/manitoba-has-highest-homicide-rate-in-canada-violent-crime-up-in-both-winnipeg-and-manitoba/ https://globalnews.ca/news/4347007/manitoba-has-highest-homi...

village-idiot 8y ago
I’m still amazed that we consider a 1-2h commute acceptable.
- lamlam 8y ago
  I would not consider that acceptable. I guess the assumption is that you would commute into Toronto for work. But that is not what I was talking about. I meant that there were places close by that one could have a life. For example, Kitchener-Waterloo, London, Hamilton. All these places have way more affordable housing and job opportunities.
  - rchaud 8y ago
    London is approximately 2 hours driving from Toronto. Kitchener-Waterloo is similar. Only Hamilton is close to the 1 hour mark, and housing prices have been rising there as well.
    - lamlam 8y ago
      Well I did say 1-2h in the GP.
- John_KZ 8y ago
  It's not, but it's better than moving a couple thousand kilometers away from your friends and family, denying your kids to their grandparents if you're married etc.
  - village-idiot 8y ago
    Guess it depends how much you like your family. Less glibly, you commute every day, even those that live close-ish to their parents will typically see them less than once a week. Obviously this is range dependent, but there are plenty of moves that would result in increased quality of life without complete elimination (or even reduction) of family time. Personally I'd argue that giving children more time with their parents is more important than "denying" the grandparents access, but I also don't have kids, so what do I know?
omaplata 8y ago
Winnipeg is in the top ten, but definitely not the murder capital of Canada: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/these-are-the-canadian-cities-with-the-highest-homicide-rates-for-2016 https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/these-are-the-canadian-... To put it in perspective, the murder rate of 2.9 per 100,000 makes Winnipeg about as dangerous as San Jose, CA or Raleigh, NC.

by lamlam 8y ago

village-idiot 8y ago

I’m still amazed that we consider a 1-2h commute acceptable.

lamlam 8y ago
I would not consider that acceptable. I guess the assumption is that you would commute into Toronto for work. But that is not what I was talking about. I meant that there were places close by that one could have a life. For example, Kitchener-Waterloo, London, Hamilton. All these places have way more affordable housing and job opportunities.
- rchaud 8y ago
  London is approximately 2 hours driving from Toronto. Kitchener-Waterloo is similar. Only Hamilton is close to the 1 hour mark, and housing prices have been rising there as well.
  - lamlam 8y ago
    Well I did say 1-2h in the GP.
John_KZ 8y ago
It's not, but it's better than moving a couple thousand kilometers away from your friends and family, denying your kids to their grandparents if you're married etc.
- village-idiot 8y ago
  Guess it depends how much you like your family. Less glibly, you commute every day, even those that live close-ish to their parents will typically see them less than once a week. Obviously this is range dependent, but there are plenty of moves that would result in increased quality of life without complete elimination (or even reduction) of family time. Personally I'd argue that giving children more time with their parents is more important than "denying" the grandparents access, but I also don't have kids, so what do I know?

omaplata 8y ago

Winnipeg is in the top ten, but definitely not the murder capital of Canada: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/these-are-the-canadian-cities-with-the-highest-homicide-rates-for-2016 https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/these-are-the-canadian-... To put it in perspective, the murder rate of 2.9 per 100,000 makes Winnipeg about as dangerous as San Jose, CA or Raleigh, NC.