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It's a fancy bit of PR-fu right here from Google, like releasing a jobs report right after a big hurricane hits so people don't notice it. A data breach is one

It's a fancy bit of PR-fu right here from Google, like releasing a jobs report right after a big hurricane hits so people don't notice it. A data breach is one thing, but the cover-up should put the nail in coffin of Google's image as benevolent good guys. They are basically Comcast now.

pinewurst 8y ago
No, I get surprisingly decent service from Comcast plus I'm obviously their customer not their product. How about "more weaselly than Facebook"?
- AceJohnny2 8y ago
  > surprisingly decent Ay, there's the rub, innit?
- SamWhited 8y ago
  > I'm obviously their customer not their product This is the same comcast we're talking about right? The one that's spent millions lobbying for the right to monitor what their customers do online and sell it to advertisers?
  - pinewurst 8y ago
    It's a rigged game for sure. Would Comcast and the other ISPs be fighting so hard for these rights if they didn't have Google and Facebook as models of success using them?
    - SamWhited 8y ago
      Probably not; but regardless of "why", you're definitely also one of their products :)
- dylan604 8y ago
  > I'm obviously their customer not their product Are you sure you are not both? ATT gives you a discount on your monthly fee if you allow them to inject their own ads. It was opt-in, but it would not surprise me if they don't just do it to all users. Plus, if you are using their DNS, I'd assume they are slurping in all of that data.
paul7986 8y ago
HA... Google is definitely doing Evil. I for one experienced personally when they invited my friend & I to discuss buying our app. They just wanted our secret sauce & after baiting us with promise of working together they us kicked us out and said the race is on. Now there was no guarantees we’d be working together but two guys with no connections is tricked by Google and told the race is on? Us vs. Google who later is granted patents for what we met them about. Now everyone says that’s just how Silicon Valley is...its expected. Hmmm things change!
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- cromwellian 8y ago
  Ah yes, the perennial story of the lone inventor or two, with a world changing invention, who has their idea stolen by a big company. Did it ever occur to you that the idea of syncing video or audio playback across devices or people is not a new idea and is continually reinvented? I've been on the net since '86, and every brilliant idea I had in secret, I was surprised to learn had been thought of by others too. The currency of the startup economy isn't ideas, it's execution. If a big company really valued a startup's tech, they'd acqui-hire for the inventors or the patents. Big companies generally want to hire people, not ideas.
  - paul7986 8y ago
    Well your employer was granted patents for what we met them for and emphatically said to us the race is on. So your saying it held no value to your employer and they have every right to treat the little guy dreamer inventors who do not have the right connections like dogs? Also it wasn't nor isn't an idea rather algorithms we created in 2013 (have improved since) that just worked and work now... demo videos below... Turn audience & their devices into a stereo system https://vimeo.com/71647538 https://vimeo.com/71647538 Drive In Movie app(listen to movie's audio on your device) https://vimeo.com/93899424 https://vimeo.com/93899424
    - 8y ago
bobdole12345 8y ago
Is it a data breach if they know that nobody used it?
- dbuder 8y ago
  If they say that nobody breached it.
- nvr219 8y ago
  It is not a data breach if they know, but they can't really know bc they don't keep the logs for more than 2 weeks

pinewurst 8y ago

No, I get surprisingly decent service from Comcast plus I'm obviously their customer not their product. How about "more weaselly than Facebook"?

AceJohnny2 8y ago
> surprisingly decent Ay, there's the rub, innit?
SamWhited 8y ago
> I'm obviously their customer not their product This is the same comcast we're talking about right? The one that's spent millions lobbying for the right to monitor what their customers do online and sell it to advertisers?
- pinewurst 8y ago
  It's a rigged game for sure. Would Comcast and the other ISPs be fighting so hard for these rights if they didn't have Google and Facebook as models of success using them?
  - SamWhited 8y ago
    Probably not; but regardless of "why", you're definitely also one of their products :)
dylan604 8y ago
> I'm obviously their customer not their product Are you sure you are not both? ATT gives you a discount on your monthly fee if you allow them to inject their own ads. It was opt-in, but it would not surprise me if they don't just do it to all users. Plus, if you are using their DNS, I'd assume they are slurping in all of that data.

paul7986 8y ago

HA... Google is definitely doing Evil. I for one experienced personally when they invited my friend & I to discuss buying our app. They just wanted our secret sauce & after baiting us with promise of working together they us kicked us out and said the race is on. Now there was no guarantees we’d be working together but two guys with no connections is tricked by Google and told the race is on? Us vs. Google who later is granted patents for what we met them about. Now everyone says that’s just how Silicon Valley is...its expected. Hmmm things change!

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cromwellian 8y ago
Ah yes, the perennial story of the lone inventor or two, with a world changing invention, who has their idea stolen by a big company. Did it ever occur to you that the idea of syncing video or audio playback across devices or people is not a new idea and is continually reinvented? I've been on the net since '86, and every brilliant idea I had in secret, I was surprised to learn had been thought of by others too. The currency of the startup economy isn't ideas, it's execution. If a big company really valued a startup's tech, they'd acqui-hire for the inventors or the patents. Big companies generally want to hire people, not ideas.
- paul7986 8y ago
  Well your employer was granted patents for what we met them for and emphatically said to us the race is on. So your saying it held no value to your employer and they have every right to treat the little guy dreamer inventors who do not have the right connections like dogs? Also it wasn't nor isn't an idea rather algorithms we created in 2013 (have improved since) that just worked and work now... demo videos below... Turn audience & their devices into a stereo system https://vimeo.com/71647538 https://vimeo.com/71647538 Drive In Movie app(listen to movie's audio on your device) https://vimeo.com/93899424 https://vimeo.com/93899424
  - 8y ago

bobdole12345 8y ago

Is it a data breach if they know that nobody used it?

dbuder 8y ago
If they say that nobody breached it.
nvr219 8y ago
It is not a data breach if they know, but they can't really know bc they don't keep the logs for more than 2 weeks