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I have an engine that I can directly fiddle with, using one hand to rev the engine whilst the other messes with the carbs. Most new cars (in developed Western e

I have an engine that I can directly fiddle with, using one hand to rev the engine whilst the other messes with the carbs. Most new cars (in developed Western economies) come with a big cover over the engine, forbidding the user to touch the internals. If you just want to drive within the lines, you get the latter. If you want to fiddle and play and experiment, you get the former. It's really not a problem for anyone.

leviathant 16y ago
My car comes with a complete technical manual online (http://www.hmaservice.com/ http://www.hmaservice.com/) that I can access freely, so that if you want to remove the four bolts that hold that plastic cover on, you can. It sounds like you chose to stop learning about cars after manufacturers stopped using carburetors. The point still stands though - some people like to hear that the computer they're buying "just works," and other people like to know a little more about what goes on under the hood, so that they have a better idea of whether or not they're getting shafted by their, uh, mechanic.
- MoreMoschops 16y ago
  "It sounds like you chose to stop learning about cars after manufacturers stopped using carburetors." Read what I said again. You'll find that actually all you can infer is that I have a car with carbs; there's no information there on how much I know about anything else.
powrtoch 16y ago
I guess the problem is that there are a lot of things many of us really like about OSX. I like it for a lot reasons, and while I'm sure I could learn to like things about Linux or Windows, I'm also pretty sure I've got the right OS for me right now. But I still need to be able to get under the hood, or it's just not going to do everything I want. So if (hypothetical, not real world) Apple were tomorrow to remotely turn OSX into an iOS like system where everything is centralized and the internals are locked away, I'd be really disappointed. Because I'd ultimately have to choose to use a "super-user" system, but that means switching to some other one that I don't care for as much. The message of this post and others seems to be "We like that you're making everything simpler, but please don't take the power away from those of us who need it. We don't want to switch, so for everyone's sake, please don't make us".
jonhendry 16y ago
"the other messes with the carbs. " Pringles? Cheetos?

leviathant 16y ago

My car comes with a complete technical manual online (http://www.hmaservice.com/ http://www.hmaservice.com/) that I can access freely, so that if you want to remove the four bolts that hold that plastic cover on, you can. It sounds like you chose to stop learning about cars after manufacturers stopped using carburetors. The point still stands though - some people like to hear that the computer they're buying "just works," and other people like to know a little more about what goes on under the hood, so that they have a better idea of whether or not they're getting shafted by their, uh, mechanic.

MoreMoschops 16y ago
"It sounds like you chose to stop learning about cars after manufacturers stopped using carburetors." Read what I said again. You'll find that actually all you can infer is that I have a car with carbs; there's no information there on how much I know about anything else.

powrtoch 16y ago

I guess the problem is that there are a lot of things many of us really like about OSX. I like it for a lot reasons, and while I'm sure I could learn to like things about Linux or Windows, I'm also pretty sure I've got the right OS for me right now. But I still need to be able to get under the hood, or it's just not going to do everything I want. So if (hypothetical, not real world) Apple were tomorrow to remotely turn OSX into an iOS like system where everything is centralized and the internals are locked away, I'd be really disappointed. Because I'd ultimately have to choose to use a "super-user" system, but that means switching to some other one that I don't care for as much. The message of this post and others seems to be "We like that you're making everything simpler, but please don't take the power away from those of us who need it. We don't want to switch, so for everyone's sake, please don't make us".

jonhendry 16y ago

"the other messes with the carbs. " Pringles? Cheetos?