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Canada does not have "a far less valuable citizenship compared to other western countries". It's standard of living is (size of house, consumer spending power)

Canada does not have "a far less valuable citizenship compared to other western countries". It's standard of living is (size of house, consumer spending power) is better than any large country except the USA. And the weather is not that different to Boston, Chicago, New York (for Toronto) and Seattle (for Vancouver). Canada won't develop a racism problem because 20% of the country are already immigrants and Canada doesn't have a bible belt south (canada politics are like that of american coasts and the europeans).

jorblumesea 8y ago
> Canada does not have "a far less valuable citizenship compared to other western countries". I disagree, it really does. Obviously for someone from India they don't care that much, their standards are much lower for what a "good country" means. Don't get me wrong, Canada is a nice place to live. But it's not Europe or the US. > And the weather is not that different to Boston, Chicago, New York (for Toronto) and Seattle (for Vancouver). Those are the worst weather cities in the US. Your best weather (Vancouver) is some of our worst (Seattle) > Canada won't develop a racism problem because 20% of the country are already immigrants and Canada doesn't have a bible belt south I've heard Canadians express pro trump sympathies, so it's pretty arrogant to think that you won't experience any blowback from immigration policies.
- overlords 8y ago
  I'm sorry, but that doesn't compute for me. Canada is USA lite, can hardly notice a difference. I've lived in both europe (UK) and canada, and hands down Canada beats any european country in standard of living. It has less social welfare benefits than europe, but higher standard of living. Canadians prefer Toronto weather to Vancouver, and as I said, Toronto is no different to Chicago or Boston in weather at all. There are pockets of racists everywhere, but Canada is literally the least racist country on earth. It's like saying California or New York will turn racist and become pro-trump.
clubm8 8y ago
>Canada won't develop a racism problem because 20% of the country are already immigrants and Canada doesn't have a bible belt south You do have the prairies though and they can be as conservative as the Dakotas. (With a similar accent to boot) For example, Calgary police officers won't be able to do marijuana off duty, despite it being explicitly legal at the federal level for all of Canada. If you browse /r/publicfreakout you will see plenty of racist prairie meltdowns.
jim-jim-jim 8y ago
I live right on the coast, a stone's throw away from NYC. People here are racist as fuck. And my girlfriend was harassed in Germany and Austria for the color of her skin to such a degree that she had to cut her trip short. If the coastal US and Europe are your barometers, then Canada has a racism problem too. I really despise this kind of regionalism because it allows real problems to be smugly swept under the rug. I don't know where you live exactly, but people there most likely aren't inherently any more righteous than people elsewhere.
- overlords 8y ago
  I live in Toronto, and many people are racist here too. But the point was about Trump - yes New York and California might turn xenophobic, and then Canada might too, but it's not likely (too many minorities/immigrants are friends or marriage partners of white people in these places). Europe is more racist and has always has been (witness soccer match hooligansim). They're limousine liberals (they don't have many dark skinned people except for UK/France and so hate "racism in theory", but don't have much direct experience with immigrants/minorities to become racist like many in the american south).

jorblumesea 8y ago

> Canada does not have "a far less valuable citizenship compared to other western countries". I disagree, it really does. Obviously for someone from India they don't care that much, their standards are much lower for what a "good country" means. Don't get me wrong, Canada is a nice place to live. But it's not Europe or the US. > And the weather is not that different to Boston, Chicago, New York (for Toronto) and Seattle (for Vancouver). Those are the worst weather cities in the US. Your best weather (Vancouver) is some of our worst (Seattle) > Canada won't develop a racism problem because 20% of the country are already immigrants and Canada doesn't have a bible belt south I've heard Canadians express pro trump sympathies, so it's pretty arrogant to think that you won't experience any blowback from immigration policies.

overlords 8y ago
I'm sorry, but that doesn't compute for me. Canada is USA lite, can hardly notice a difference. I've lived in both europe (UK) and canada, and hands down Canada beats any european country in standard of living. It has less social welfare benefits than europe, but higher standard of living. Canadians prefer Toronto weather to Vancouver, and as I said, Toronto is no different to Chicago or Boston in weather at all. There are pockets of racists everywhere, but Canada is literally the least racist country on earth. It's like saying California or New York will turn racist and become pro-trump.

clubm8 8y ago

>Canada won't develop a racism problem because 20% of the country are already immigrants and Canada doesn't have a bible belt south You do have the prairies though and they can be as conservative as the Dakotas. (With a similar accent to boot) For example, Calgary police officers won't be able to do marijuana off duty, despite it being explicitly legal at the federal level for all of Canada. If you browse /r/publicfreakout you will see plenty of racist prairie meltdowns.

jim-jim-jim 8y ago

I live right on the coast, a stone's throw away from NYC. People here are racist as fuck. And my girlfriend was harassed in Germany and Austria for the color of her skin to such a degree that she had to cut her trip short. If the coastal US and Europe are your barometers, then Canada has a racism problem too. I really despise this kind of regionalism because it allows real problems to be smugly swept under the rug. I don't know where you live exactly, but people there most likely aren't inherently any more righteous than people elsewhere.

overlords 8y ago
I live in Toronto, and many people are racist here too. But the point was about Trump - yes New York and California might turn xenophobic, and then Canada might too, but it's not likely (too many minorities/immigrants are friends or marriage partners of white people in these places). Europe is more racist and has always has been (witness soccer match hooligansim). They're limousine liberals (they don't have many dark skinned people except for UK/France and so hate "racism in theory", but don't have much direct experience with immigrants/minorities to become racist like many in the american south).