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As horrible as it sounds, in this specific respect, the current US administration has been really fantastic for Canada. More and more new grads are choosing to

As horrible as it sounds, in this specific respect, the current US administration has been really fantastic for Canada. More and more new grads are choosing to stay in the country and work with local tech companies, and we're experiencing a reverse brain-drain like never before.

b1tr0t 8y ago
From a Canadian viewpoint, the last couple of years of populism has been a bit like discovering your favorite Uncle has a probably lethal opiate addiction. But, you're going to get to inherit his Corvette.
- timewarrior 8y ago
  Hi, can you please clarify this. I didn't get the context. I am planning to move to Canada and would love to get multiple view points.
- village-idiot 8y ago
  Man, too close to home.
- emptybits 8y ago
  Canadian here also. I like your analogy. Opiates don't stop at national or socio-economic boundaries. So a prediction I hope I'm wrong about: We temporarily enjoy driving the bully uncle's Corvette but soon find ourselves chasing the same dragon in it.
- gruez 8y ago
  >your favorite Uncle has a probably lethal opiate addiction. are you talking about the crack smoking mayor?
- a3n 8y ago
  Cool, but he's not maintaining the Corvette, he's running it into the ground.
domador 8y ago
> "we're experiencing a reverse brain-drain" Are you Canadian? Is that what you mean by "we". (I'm just trying to understand the comment.)
refurb 8y ago
You're saying the brain drain has reversed and now there are more Americans going to Canada than vice versa? Source?
- notafraudster 8y ago
  I believe he's making two claims: 1. The magnitude of the Canada -> US migration flow has lowered 2. The magnitude of the US -> Canada migration flow has raised. I am unsure if either claim is true, but both claims can be true without the net migration flow switching signs.
  - webkike 8y ago
    Or, they are making the claim that the people who left canada for the US are migrating back to canada
puranjay 8y ago
My wife ruled out a US PhD precisely because of the negative signals about getting a work visa for her or for me. Canada is welcoming her with open arms
- xtacy 8y ago
  It might be worth getting a PhD first in the US and then migrating to Canada!
  - what_ever 8y ago
    Tbh, if you have a PhD, it's not too bad on EB1.
    - xtracto 8y ago
      Went looking for eb1 as I have a PhD from a red brick Univ. PhD is not enough according to Wikipedia: The EB-1 is a preference category for United States employment-based permanent residency. It is intended for "priority workers". Those are foreign nationals who either have "extraordinary abilities", or are "outstanding professors or researchers", and also includes "some executives and managers of foreign companies who are transferred to the US".[1] It allows them to remain permanently in the US.
      - what_ever 8y ago
        Sorry for the late reply. > outstanding professors or researchers Works if you have published papers referenced by 10 people. I don't have a PhD but I know a couple of people, one really close friend who did this. In most of the cases PhDs do end up with published papers that get referenced by others. It took couple of years for him for the whole process as an Indian.
    - raincom 8y ago
      Things were good for EB1 till 2008. Then, EB1 was abused by the so-called managers of outsourcing companies: every project manager, team lead, etc, got green cards on EB1, by showing how exceptional they were. Immigration caught up with this game by complaints by other applicants. That's why there is a lot of scrutiny.
screye 8y ago
It has been great for European countries too. Some of the smartest people I know, do not want to come to the US for higher education. Europe and Canada are quickly becoming the more desirable locations. A few people that I know from FAANG tier companies have already started the Canada PR process. I am surprised that the Canadian govt. isn't taking an initiative to try and incentivize more companies to start operations in Canada. I can see companies saving a lot of money on wages, if they move to their offices to Canada.

b1tr0t 8y ago

From a Canadian viewpoint, the last couple of years of populism has been a bit like discovering your favorite Uncle has a probably lethal opiate addiction. But, you're going to get to inherit his Corvette.

timewarrior 8y ago
Hi, can you please clarify this. I didn't get the context. I am planning to move to Canada and would love to get multiple view points.
village-idiot 8y ago
Man, too close to home.
emptybits 8y ago
Canadian here also. I like your analogy. Opiates don't stop at national or socio-economic boundaries. So a prediction I hope I'm wrong about: We temporarily enjoy driving the bully uncle's Corvette but soon find ourselves chasing the same dragon in it.
gruez 8y ago
>your favorite Uncle has a probably lethal opiate addiction. are you talking about the crack smoking mayor?
a3n 8y ago
Cool, but he's not maintaining the Corvette, he's running it into the ground.

domador 8y ago

> "we're experiencing a reverse brain-drain" Are you Canadian? Is that what you mean by "we". (I'm just trying to understand the comment.)

refurb 8y ago

You're saying the brain drain has reversed and now there are more Americans going to Canada than vice versa? Source?

notafraudster 8y ago
I believe he's making two claims: 1. The magnitude of the Canada -> US migration flow has lowered 2. The magnitude of the US -> Canada migration flow has raised. I am unsure if either claim is true, but both claims can be true without the net migration flow switching signs.
- webkike 8y ago
  Or, they are making the claim that the people who left canada for the US are migrating back to canada

puranjay 8y ago

My wife ruled out a US PhD precisely because of the negative signals about getting a work visa for her or for me. Canada is welcoming her with open arms

xtacy 8y ago
It might be worth getting a PhD first in the US and then migrating to Canada!
- what_ever 8y ago
  Tbh, if you have a PhD, it's not too bad on EB1.
  - xtracto 8y ago
    Went looking for eb1 as I have a PhD from a red brick Univ. PhD is not enough according to Wikipedia: The EB-1 is a preference category for United States employment-based permanent residency. It is intended for "priority workers". Those are foreign nationals who either have "extraordinary abilities", or are "outstanding professors or researchers", and also includes "some executives and managers of foreign companies who are transferred to the US".[1] It allows them to remain permanently in the US.
    - what_ever 8y ago
      Sorry for the late reply. > outstanding professors or researchers Works if you have published papers referenced by 10 people. I don't have a PhD but I know a couple of people, one really close friend who did this. In most of the cases PhDs do end up with published papers that get referenced by others. It took couple of years for him for the whole process as an Indian.
  - raincom 8y ago
    Things were good for EB1 till 2008. Then, EB1 was abused by the so-called managers of outsourcing companies: every project manager, team lead, etc, got green cards on EB1, by showing how exceptional they were. Immigration caught up with this game by complaints by other applicants. That's why there is a lot of scrutiny.

screye 8y ago

It has been great for European countries too. Some of the smartest people I know, do not want to come to the US for higher education. Europe and Canada are quickly becoming the more desirable locations. A few people that I know from FAANG tier companies have already started the Canada PR process. I am surprised that the Canadian govt. isn't taking an initiative to try and incentivize more companies to start operations in Canada. I can see companies saving a lot of money on wages, if they move to their offices to Canada.