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G+ didn't even get its own sunset announcement post; it was mentioned in passing from a post about _something else_. Poor G+.

by jrrrr 8y ago

ben174 8y ago
I think that was by design. Trying to sweep it under the covers to avoid outrage. I share that article with friends and they're likely to read the first half of the headline and not bother reading it.
- pc86 8y ago
  Serious question, is anybody going to be outraged by sunsetting G+?
  - robotrout 8y ago
    Not me. But it reinforces my commitment to never get attached to any Google service. The new GMail is also helping me with that.
    - pc86 8y ago
      I really like Inbox and am dreading the day that inevitably gets canned.
      - ihuman 8y ago
        I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Inbox is getting shut down https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17848500/google-inbox-shut-down-sunset-snooze-email-march-2019 https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17848500/google-inbox-shu...
        pc86 8y ago
        Well at least when I get forced over in March it will be a good incentive to unsubscribe from all the newsletters I don't want :)
  - notatoad 8y ago
    there's a decent sized group of people who are outraged when google shuts down any product, regardless of if they used it or had even heard about it before.
    - stevekemp 8y ago
      I'm not particularly outraged, but the stereotype that Google shuts down projects too frequently to depend upon them is not going to go away when it keeps happening. I use their mail, as a backup, their maps, and search engine. But I'd think long and hard before I developed against one of their services, or came to rely upon any future-project they released.
      - notatoad 8y ago
        just out of curiosity, when was the last time google shut down a product that you were actively using? For me it was Reader, and that was the only time. and yeah, i'm still a little salty about it. But every company shuts things down - google can't keep all their dead and unused failures running forever, and Google+ was obviously deserving of a shutdown. "i don't trust google because they shut down things nobody uses" isn't really a rational complaint.
        stevekemp 8y ago
        Reader, Orkut (yeah!), and Wave were the three I can remember off-hand. I suspect there were more. I know that I had to cope with some changes to their map-pricing recently too - so I moved to an alternative (easy to manage since I was using leaflet.js as a wrapper). Rightly or wrongly though I now have the impression that their APIs/Services are not likely to remain.
  - jkaplowitz 8y ago
    I'm not outraged, but I do use it and I will need to figure out a replacement for the conversations I currently have there. But I only have those conversations with a small number of people, so I can't argue against Google's usage conclusions.
    - jrrrr 8y ago
      Ditto. I use and enjoy G+ more than Facebook, and I have no interest in Twitter. I probably just won't have those conversations anymore =\
      - reitanqild 8y ago
        I guess this is a good time if anyone wants to create something similar: - contextual ads OK with me, particularly if they are inline and not third party - or a small yearly fee for no ads - same features as Google+ - create the API that Google+ always lacked - I and a lot of others don't really care about E2E for that kind of conversations so just don't data mine us, don't follow us around the web and don't sell out to Facebook and we should be fine.
  - reitanqild 8y ago
    Not outraged. I'm not that kind of guy. But I'm gonna miss it. I haven't been too active the last few months so I guess I might be to blame too (but then again I've not been active anywhere else either lately except here). Where else do you go to meet people who share interests in a more general sense? HN doesn't care about photography. Twitter doesn't allow me to chose to see someones photos but not their crazy posts about politics. Facebook... well, don't even mention it. It's less than a week since last time they let hackers access theirs users accounts, and even if they had a perfect security record wrt hacking, it seems they just can't stand the temptation to abuse data: change settings, do experiments on users to make them depressed, abuse 2-fator phone numbers for spamming, ask people to upload nudes - many of us couldn't make this up even if we tried..!
    - tonfa 8y ago
      Would instagram work? (I have some photographer friends and they seem fairly active there).
      - reitanqild 8y ago
        For photography maybe. But it is too limited (Google+ lets you write and cite text posts etc.) Also while I originally liked it I think it is too heavily tied into Facebook now.
    - robin_reala 8y ago
      Reddit has basically taken over this niche.
  - jpindar 8y ago
    I know a lot of people in various Open Simulator related communities who are extremely unhappy about it, and are desperately searching for a replacement. Is that close enough?
  - aasasd 8y ago
    I just realized this means plenty of long-form posts will poof into non-existence. Currently, the sole benefit from G+ to me is occasionally coming upon a solution to a problem, or at least a discussion, in someone's G+ blog. It so happens that the G+ crowd seems to consist of especially stubborn and strong-willed people with firm opinions, which lets the rest of us mooch off them.
- int0x80 8y ago
  Of course it is by design. It is a blatant manipulation. "Protecting your Data". Come on!
tinyhouse 8y ago
Common "business as usual" technique. In a previous small company I used to work at, often when a senior engineer was leaving, the departure announcement email was mentioned as a last thing after a couple of "good news" announcements.
adrianmonk 8y ago
I think they are trying to spin it as a privacy-protecting move. This gains them two things: 1. They save face a little by not publicly confessing it was a failure. 2. Big tech (Facebook, Google, etc.) is facing privacy-related criticism right now. They can say, hey, this is yet one more step we're taking to improve the situation for everyone. And they might even be partially right about both. Maybe they would have shut it down eventually but privacy challenges caused them to do it sooner than they otherwise would have.
smolsky 8y ago
Was this announced on G+?

G+ didn't even get its own sunset announcement post; it was mentioned in passing from a post about _something else_. Poor G+.

by jrrrr 8y ago

G+ didn't even get its own sunset announcement post; it was mentioned in passing from a post about _something else_. Poor G+.

ben174 8y ago

I think that was by design. Trying to sweep it under the covers to avoid outrage. I share that article with friends and they're likely to read the first half of the headline and not bother reading it.

pc86 8y ago
Serious question, is anybody going to be outraged by sunsetting G+?
- robotrout 8y ago
  Not me. But it reinforces my commitment to never get attached to any Google service. The new GMail is also helping me with that.
  - pc86 8y ago
    I really like Inbox and am dreading the day that inevitably gets canned.
    - ihuman 8y ago
      I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Inbox is getting shut down https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17848500/google-inbox-shut-down-sunset-snooze-email-march-2019 https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17848500/google-inbox-shu...
      - pc86 8y ago
        Well at least when I get forced over in March it will be a good incentive to unsubscribe from all the newsletters I don't want :)
- notatoad 8y ago
  there's a decent sized group of people who are outraged when google shuts down any product, regardless of if they used it or had even heard about it before.
  - stevekemp 8y ago
    I'm not particularly outraged, but the stereotype that Google shuts down projects too frequently to depend upon them is not going to go away when it keeps happening. I use their mail, as a backup, their maps, and search engine. But I'd think long and hard before I developed against one of their services, or came to rely upon any future-project they released.
    - notatoad 8y ago
      just out of curiosity, when was the last time google shut down a product that you were actively using? For me it was Reader, and that was the only time. and yeah, i'm still a little salty about it. But every company shuts things down - google can't keep all their dead and unused failures running forever, and Google+ was obviously deserving of a shutdown. "i don't trust google because they shut down things nobody uses" isn't really a rational complaint.
      - stevekemp 8y ago
        Reader, Orkut (yeah!), and Wave were the three I can remember off-hand. I suspect there were more. I know that I had to cope with some changes to their map-pricing recently too - so I moved to an alternative (easy to manage since I was using leaflet.js as a wrapper). Rightly or wrongly though I now have the impression that their APIs/Services are not likely to remain.
- jkaplowitz 8y ago
  I'm not outraged, but I do use it and I will need to figure out a replacement for the conversations I currently have there. But I only have those conversations with a small number of people, so I can't argue against Google's usage conclusions.
  - jrrrr 8y ago
    Ditto. I use and enjoy G+ more than Facebook, and I have no interest in Twitter. I probably just won't have those conversations anymore =\
    - reitanqild 8y ago
      I guess this is a good time if anyone wants to create something similar: - contextual ads OK with me, particularly if they are inline and not third party - or a small yearly fee for no ads - same features as Google+ - create the API that Google+ always lacked - I and a lot of others don't really care about E2E for that kind of conversations so just don't data mine us, don't follow us around the web and don't sell out to Facebook and we should be fine.
- reitanqild 8y ago
  Not outraged. I'm not that kind of guy. But I'm gonna miss it. I haven't been too active the last few months so I guess I might be to blame too (but then again I've not been active anywhere else either lately except here). Where else do you go to meet people who share interests in a more general sense? HN doesn't care about photography. Twitter doesn't allow me to chose to see someones photos but not their crazy posts about politics. Facebook... well, don't even mention it. It's less than a week since last time they let hackers access theirs users accounts, and even if they had a perfect security record wrt hacking, it seems they just can't stand the temptation to abuse data: change settings, do experiments on users to make them depressed, abuse 2-fator phone numbers for spamming, ask people to upload nudes - many of us couldn't make this up even if we tried..!
  - tonfa 8y ago
    Would instagram work? (I have some photographer friends and they seem fairly active there).
    - reitanqild 8y ago
      For photography maybe. But it is too limited (Google+ lets you write and cite text posts etc.) Also while I originally liked it I think it is too heavily tied into Facebook now.
  - robin_reala 8y ago
    Reddit has basically taken over this niche.
- jpindar 8y ago
  I know a lot of people in various Open Simulator related communities who are extremely unhappy about it, and are desperately searching for a replacement. Is that close enough?
- aasasd 8y ago
  I just realized this means plenty of long-form posts will poof into non-existence. Currently, the sole benefit from G+ to me is occasionally coming upon a solution to a problem, or at least a discussion, in someone's G+ blog. It so happens that the G+ crowd seems to consist of especially stubborn and strong-willed people with firm opinions, which lets the rest of us mooch off them.
int0x80 8y ago
Of course it is by design. It is a blatant manipulation. "Protecting your Data". Come on!

tinyhouse 8y ago

Common "business as usual" technique. In a previous small company I used to work at, often when a senior engineer was leaving, the departure announcement email was mentioned as a last thing after a couple of "good news" announcements.

adrianmonk 8y ago

I think they are trying to spin it as a privacy-protecting move. This gains them two things: 1. They save face a little by not publicly confessing it was a failure. 2. Big tech (Facebook, Google, etc.) is facing privacy-related criticism right now. They can say, hey, this is yet one more step we're taking to improve the situation for everyone. And they might even be partially right about both. Maybe they would have shut it down eventually but privacy challenges caused them to do it sooner than they otherwise would have.

smolsky 8y ago

Was this announced on G+?