I suppose I really mean that one needs to bootstrap at compile time and a way to transfer the compile time objects into runtime (ie into source to make objects

I suppose I really mean that one needs to bootstrap at compile time and a way to transfer the compile time objects into runtime (ie into source to make objects at run time). The hierarchy is a bit of a pain to make at runtime as it is quite circular. Eg standard-class is a class, that is an instance of (some subclass of) class, and class is an instance of standard-class.