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Crime rates doent mean anything. Kerala has the highest crime rate in India. It just means people are not afraid to go to police and report the crime. On the ot

Crime rates doent mean anything. Kerala has the highest crime rate in India. It just means people are not afraid to go to police and report the crime. On the other hand Kerala must be one of the safest states to live in India. Delhi is a really dangerous city. Especially for a foreigner. Crime is extremely common in Delhi. > Well OP was looking for something out of SFO, salaries in europe are pretty much comparable to what you'd get in top tier companies in India. Its defintely not comparable. Almost every beginner software engineers in Europe makes $60K easily. How many beginner Software Engineers in India make that? Lol. AFter working for some time in India and moving back in USA he would have peanuts as savings. > But the high cost of living in SFO means that you can easily save more while working in India while leading a comparable(if not better) life. I dont think Software Engineers in Delhi have a better quality of life than Engineers in SFO. Thats the reason why people from India do masters in USA and not the opposite. India is nowhere top in quality of life and happiness index.

me551ah 8y ago
Crime rate is the only statictic that should matter IMO. With a literacy rate of 82% in delhi, it's highly unlikely that crime gets underreported. But how many cities in kerala has more than 5 million. Delhi has 24 million, SF isn't even 1 million. The absolutely number of crime is always going to be higher, but as long as you consider the crime rate it's low. I've had multiple foreigner friends from dubai and US, and none of them felt that crime is extremely common. People do try to get out more money, but you can always bargain. >Crime rates doent mean anything. Kerala has It's not uncommon to make $60k if you are from a top tier college and in a top tier company. There are so many software engineers that you get it across the payscale. Uber, Directi, Google, Rivigo etc all pay quite a lot. >Its defintely not comparable. Almost every beginner software engineers in Europe makes $60K easily Again it's relative, for the average person yes it's lower. But if you are in the top tier ( which an engineer from SF is ), then they would be in the top 1% of earners in the city which allows them to live a lot better. How many people in SF do you know who live alone in a high rise 3BHK floor, have a maid+driver and can get food delivered at 3AM? There are also way more good looking women in Delhi than SFO ;) >I dont think Software Engineers in Delhi have a better quality of life than Engineers in SFO.
- blocked_again 8y ago
  > I've had multiple foreigner friends from dubai and US, and none of them felt that crime is extremely common. How is a foreigner coming to Delhi for a few days going to have an idea of whether the crime is high or not? > . Delhi has 24 million, SF isn't even 1 million. Ha ha. Delhi having 24 million population is another reason why he should not move there. The place is overpopulated. > The absolutely number of crime is always going to be higher, but as long as you consider the crime rate it's low. Delhi has the highest crime rate across all Indian cities. Almost twice as that of Banglore and Mumbai. > It's not uncommon to make $60k if you are from a top tier college and in a top tier company. No company is paying beginners anywhere near that salary in India (Unless you work for some quants). I have friends in Uber, Flipkart, media.net, Codenation, Google, Nutanix and they don't make anywhere near to $60k in hand. Again I am talking about beginners with 1 2 years experience. But if you are in Europe you can make much more than that if you are beginer. > How many people in SF do you know who live alone in a high rise 3BHK floor, have a maid+driver and can get food delivered at 3AM? I am pretty sure the people in SFO dont want to move to India just because they want a maid and driver. I dont think most people even care. It has almost nothing to do with quality of living. The factors that matter like personal safety, health, public services, education, transportation, nightlife, networking, weather, air quality, happiness, female friendliness etc are terrible in Delhi compared to SFO. Again I know that you are happy with Delhi. You are born and raised in India and adapted to the country. Its not the same for a person who was born and raised in west. They are used to a higher quality of life. Its would be obvious to you if you visit the states :) Take a look at this https://nomadlist.com/san-francisco https://nomadlist.com/san-francisco https://nomadlist.com/delhi https://nomadlist.com/delhi
  - me551ah 8y ago
    Friends who have stayed here for more than 3+ years. One was an australian who was starting her own brand on myntra, one girl was from Dubai who was working in an architechture firm in delhi, one is a friend who moved from dubai 8 years ago and is now starting his own pharma company etc etc >How is a foreigner coming to Delhi for a few days A lot more cities in the world have higher population density than Delhi. Overpopulation isnt a bad thing >Delhi having 24 million population True not for beginners, but people reach there in 3-5 years. >No company is paying beginners anywhere This statement is loaded with quite a few assumptions. Healthcare in SF is overloaded and waiting periods for doctors and specialists can go into months. Delhi is actually famous for medidal tourism in the world. With the rising gun crime and culture personal safety is a problem in the US. Delhi has a much better metro than SF a few times ,I've been to US and it has a small trams. etc. >I am pretty sure the people in SFO I have visited SF a couple of times and didn't enjoy it much. Stayed near fisherman's wharf for more than a couple of weeks. It was good and I would visit again though. >Its would be obvious to you if you visit the states :)

me551ah 8y ago

Crime rate is the only statictic that should matter IMO. With a literacy rate of 82% in delhi, it's highly unlikely that crime gets underreported. But how many cities in kerala has more than 5 million. Delhi has 24 million, SF isn't even 1 million. The absolutely number of crime is always going to be higher, but as long as you consider the crime rate it's low. I've had multiple foreigner friends from dubai and US, and none of them felt that crime is extremely common. People do try to get out more money, but you can always bargain. >Crime rates doent mean anything. Kerala has It's not uncommon to make $60k if you are from a top tier college and in a top tier company. There are so many software engineers that you get it across the payscale. Uber, Directi, Google, Rivigo etc all pay quite a lot. >Its defintely not comparable. Almost every beginner software engineers in Europe makes $60K easily Again it's relative, for the average person yes it's lower. But if you are in the top tier ( which an engineer from SF is ), then they would be in the top 1% of earners in the city which allows them to live a lot better. How many people in SF do you know who live alone in a high rise 3BHK floor, have a maid+driver and can get food delivered at 3AM? There are also way more good looking women in Delhi than SFO ;) >I dont think Software Engineers in Delhi have a better quality of life than Engineers in SFO.

blocked_again 8y ago
> I've had multiple foreigner friends from dubai and US, and none of them felt that crime is extremely common. How is a foreigner coming to Delhi for a few days going to have an idea of whether the crime is high or not? > . Delhi has 24 million, SF isn't even 1 million. Ha ha. Delhi having 24 million population is another reason why he should not move there. The place is overpopulated. > The absolutely number of crime is always going to be higher, but as long as you consider the crime rate it's low. Delhi has the highest crime rate across all Indian cities. Almost twice as that of Banglore and Mumbai. > It's not uncommon to make $60k if you are from a top tier college and in a top tier company. No company is paying beginners anywhere near that salary in India (Unless you work for some quants). I have friends in Uber, Flipkart, media.net, Codenation, Google, Nutanix and they don't make anywhere near to $60k in hand. Again I am talking about beginners with 1 2 years experience. But if you are in Europe you can make much more than that if you are beginer. > How many people in SF do you know who live alone in a high rise 3BHK floor, have a maid+driver and can get food delivered at 3AM? I am pretty sure the people in SFO dont want to move to India just because they want a maid and driver. I dont think most people even care. It has almost nothing to do with quality of living. The factors that matter like personal safety, health, public services, education, transportation, nightlife, networking, weather, air quality, happiness, female friendliness etc are terrible in Delhi compared to SFO. Again I know that you are happy with Delhi. You are born and raised in India and adapted to the country. Its not the same for a person who was born and raised in west. They are used to a higher quality of life. Its would be obvious to you if you visit the states :) Take a look at this https://nomadlist.com/san-francisco https://nomadlist.com/san-francisco https://nomadlist.com/delhi https://nomadlist.com/delhi
- me551ah 8y ago
  Friends who have stayed here for more than 3+ years. One was an australian who was starting her own brand on myntra, one girl was from Dubai who was working in an architechture firm in delhi, one is a friend who moved from dubai 8 years ago and is now starting his own pharma company etc etc >How is a foreigner coming to Delhi for a few days A lot more cities in the world have higher population density than Delhi. Overpopulation isnt a bad thing >Delhi having 24 million population True not for beginners, but people reach there in 3-5 years. >No company is paying beginners anywhere This statement is loaded with quite a few assumptions. Healthcare in SF is overloaded and waiting periods for doctors and specialists can go into months. Delhi is actually famous for medidal tourism in the world. With the rising gun crime and culture personal safety is a problem in the US. Delhi has a much better metro than SF a few times ,I've been to US and it has a small trams. etc. >I am pretty sure the people in SFO I have visited SF a couple of times and didn't enjoy it much. Stayed near fisherman's wharf for more than a couple of weeks. It was good and I would visit again though. >Its would be obvious to you if you visit the states :)