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I find the denials made by the companies involved to be substantive and credible. I'm inclined to believe them. Perhaps Bloomberg's reporters fell for a conspir

by asaph 8y ago

I find the denials made by the companies involved to be substantive and credible. I'm inclined to believe them. Perhaps Bloomberg's reporters fell for a conspiracy theory this time.

ElBarto 8y ago
If true, the attack described by Bloomberg would mean the US fell victim to one of the most spectacular attack, if not the most spectacular attack, in history and at the hand of the Chinese. It's equally credible that they would never want to acknowledge that.
- tyingq 8y ago
  "would mean the US fell victim to one of the most spectacular attack, if not the most spectacular attack, in history" The general idea doesn't seem new or novel. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...
  - ElBarto 8y ago
    It's not the idea, which is indeed old and used. It's the execution and success (if true).
    - tyingq 8y ago
      I'm assuming it's been successfully used both by, and against, the US for many years.
- rasz 8y ago
  or they knew about it from the beginning and used it as a counter intelligence tool, now blown by Bloomberg.
wolfgke 8y ago
> Perhaps Bloomberg's reporters fell for a conspiracy theory this time. According to > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/04/supermicro_bloomberg/?page=3 https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/04/supermicro_bloomber... "Bloomberg reporters receive bonuses based indirectly on how much they shift markets with their reporting. This story undoubtedly did that. The publisher employs roughly 2,000 journalists, who are encouraged to work together and share information through their Bloomberg Terminals, with many layers of editing and fact checking, and it has a zero tolerance on errors: it is inconceivable that it would publish a story this huge that wasn't watertight."
- fjsolwmv 8y ago
  Register does give a source for the first, most interesting sentence.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  Thanks, I hadn't spotted the other 1500 times this 5-year-old revelation had already been posted on HN this morning.
  - alias_neo 8y ago
    I do love how predictable news has gotten these days, I only had to see the headline mentioned somewhere to know what its all about and why it's being said. It's almost like reading, a couple of days ago that Riz Ahmed taped over his parent's wedding video with an Eminem song a decade or so ago.
sigmar 8y ago
If it were true that they found backdoored hardware, would you expect all of them to make statements confirming that? I wouldn't. and it is clear Apple is still lying about the events surrounding them dropping Super Micro (their current explanation makes as little sense as their shifting 2017 explanations: https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1047859445064241153 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/10478594450642411...).
alias_neo 8y ago
I'm not sure I see anything substantive or credible in the denials by the various companies. If they haven't been issued gag orders, which is quite likely for something of this scale, perhaps it's just in their best interests to deny this. There is suggestion that at least one of the companies involved is lying about related goings-on.

by asaph 8y ago

I find the denials made by the companies involved to be substantive and credible. I'm inclined to believe them. Perhaps Bloomberg's reporters fell for a conspiracy theory this time.

ElBarto 8y ago

If true, the attack described by Bloomberg would mean the US fell victim to one of the most spectacular attack, if not the most spectacular attack, in history and at the hand of the Chinese. It's equally credible that they would never want to acknowledge that.

tyingq 8y ago
"would mean the US fell victim to one of the most spectacular attack, if not the most spectacular attack, in history" The general idea doesn't seem new or novel. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...
- ElBarto 8y ago
  It's not the idea, which is indeed old and used. It's the execution and success (if true).
  - tyingq 8y ago
    I'm assuming it's been successfully used both by, and against, the US for many years.
rasz 8y ago
or they knew about it from the beginning and used it as a counter intelligence tool, now blown by Bloomberg.

wolfgke 8y ago

> Perhaps Bloomberg's reporters fell for a conspiracy theory this time. According to > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/04/supermicro_bloomberg/?page=3 https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/04/supermicro_bloomber... "Bloomberg reporters receive bonuses based indirectly on how much they shift markets with their reporting. This story undoubtedly did that. The publisher employs roughly 2,000 journalists, who are encouraged to work together and share information through their Bloomberg Terminals, with many layers of editing and fact checking, and it has a zero tolerance on errors: it is inconceivable that it would publish a story this huge that wasn't watertight."

fjsolwmv 8y ago
Register does give a source for the first, most interesting sentence.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
Thanks, I hadn't spotted the other 1500 times this 5-year-old revelation had already been posted on HN this morning.
- alias_neo 8y ago
  I do love how predictable news has gotten these days, I only had to see the headline mentioned somewhere to know what its all about and why it's being said. It's almost like reading, a couple of days ago that Riz Ahmed taped over his parent's wedding video with an Eminem song a decade or so ago.

sigmar 8y ago

If it were true that they found backdoored hardware, would you expect all of them to make statements confirming that? I wouldn't. and it is clear Apple is still lying about the events surrounding them dropping Super Micro (their current explanation makes as little sense as their shifting 2017 explanations: https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1047859445064241153 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/10478594450642411...).

alias_neo 8y ago

I'm not sure I see anything substantive or credible in the denials by the various companies. If they haven't been issued gag orders, which is quite likely for something of this scale, perhaps it's just in their best interests to deny this. There is suggestion that at least one of the companies involved is lying about related goings-on.