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>the EU will do whatever the US tells it to Lol you've no idea what you're talking about. The EU is not the US, that's why apart from the UK leaving the rest o

>the EU will do whatever the US tells it to Lol you've no idea what you're talking about. The EU is not the US, that's why apart from the UK leaving the rest of us won't be eating chlorinated chicken. >As a collection of many client states, A rather silly view, we have a shared market and our interests. You're clearly confusing the EU with NATO, i guess from St Petersburg we all look "West" to you.

reacweb 8y ago
EU is mainly European Commission and European Parliament. We have not the same experience as US with lobbying. It is well known that european commission is too much complacent with lobbies and with US influence.
coldtea 8y ago
>Lol you've no idea what you're talking about. The EU is not the US, that's why apart from the UK leaving the rest of us won't be eating chlorinated chicken. Lol, I'm a European, so... The EU might not be the US, but it has seeded its global ambitions (and lots of its sovereignty) to the US after World War II. >You're clearly confusing the EU with NATO, i guess from St Petersburg we all look "West" to you. Yeah, because nobody outside St Petersburg can think EU governments are pushovers and lackeys of the US. It's not like Europe (from the UK, to Germany, Italy, France, and so on) had a strong left that believed exactly that...
- oytis 8y ago
  > The EU might not be the US, but it has seeded its global ambitions (and lots of its sovereignty) to the US after World War II. There was no such thing as European global ambition before WWII, not since the era of crusades. Every country had its own ambitions. And I believe there is a difference between being allied and being someone's lackey.
  - veritas718 8y ago
    literally how WWI got started.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >There was no such thing as European global ambition before WWII, not since the era of crusades. Every country had its own ambitions. Thanks captain obvious. I am referring to the British, French, Netherlands, Belgium, and last but not least, German, ambitions, which in most cases were accompanied by actual colonial empires. European powers (and most importantly, Britain and France), ceded their global role past WWII and the US took over. For lesser European countries it was even directly involved in who will get into government, what their foreign policy should be, and so on. >And I believe there is a difference between being allied and being someone's lackey. You can be allied if you are an equal. If you are a bunch of countries and another one is "leading" and has several times the economic, and 10 times the military and diplomatic power, you are not.

reacweb 8y ago

EU is mainly European Commission and European Parliament. We have not the same experience as US with lobbying. It is well known that european commission is too much complacent with lobbies and with US influence.

coldtea 8y ago

>Lol you've no idea what you're talking about. The EU is not the US, that's why apart from the UK leaving the rest of us won't be eating chlorinated chicken. Lol, I'm a European, so... The EU might not be the US, but it has seeded its global ambitions (and lots of its sovereignty) to the US after World War II. >You're clearly confusing the EU with NATO, i guess from St Petersburg we all look "West" to you. Yeah, because nobody outside St Petersburg can think EU governments are pushovers and lackeys of the US. It's not like Europe (from the UK, to Germany, Italy, France, and so on) had a strong left that believed exactly that...

oytis 8y ago
> The EU might not be the US, but it has seeded its global ambitions (and lots of its sovereignty) to the US after World War II. There was no such thing as European global ambition before WWII, not since the era of crusades. Every country had its own ambitions. And I believe there is a difference between being allied and being someone's lackey.
- veritas718 8y ago
  literally how WWI got started.
- coldtea 8y ago
  >There was no such thing as European global ambition before WWII, not since the era of crusades. Every country had its own ambitions. Thanks captain obvious. I am referring to the British, French, Netherlands, Belgium, and last but not least, German, ambitions, which in most cases were accompanied by actual colonial empires. European powers (and most importantly, Britain and France), ceded their global role past WWII and the US took over. For lesser European countries it was even directly involved in who will get into government, what their foreign policy should be, and so on. >And I believe there is a difference between being allied and being someone's lackey. You can be allied if you are an equal. If you are a bunch of countries and another one is "leading" and has several times the economic, and 10 times the military and diplomatic power, you are not.