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> ProtonVPN was able to explain what happened to what I thought was a satisfactory degree ProtonVPN's explanation was extremely hardly believable[1]. > Mullva
by krn 8y ago
> ProtonVPN was able to explain what happened to what I thought was a satisfactory degree
ProtonVPN's explanation was extremely hardly believable[1].
> Mullvad, absolutely no clue who runs it.
It's clearly stated on Mullvad's homepage[2]:
> The legal entity operating Mullvad is Amagicom AB. [...] Amagicom is 100% owned by founders Fredrik Strömberg and Daniel Berntsson who are actively involved in the company. The rest of the team includes Robin Lövgren, Simon Andersson, Linus, Richard Mitra, Sanny Mitra, David Marby, Odd, Andrej Mihajlov, Janito Ferreira Filho, Elad Yarom and Jan Jonsson.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17775554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17775554
[2] https://mullvad.net/en/ https://mullvad.net/en/
- Kaveren 8y agoI thought the Reddit reply was thorough, though I can't speak to the claim by krn. At the end of the day, I can't name many (if any) VPN providers that operate their own data center, which is extremely important since they all (including ProtonVPN) lease from the same companies. ProtonVPN does provide Secure Core though (routing traffic through certain countries to attempt to mitigate exit node threats), too. I wasn't aware about Mullvad, thank you for pointing that out. I still have little clue who those people are, while Andy Yen has given a TED talk, so he has some public presence. I'm personally more inclined to trust them.
- protonmail 8y agoActually, ProtonVPN does own the physical hardware and network for our secure core servers, which we fully operate and run ourselves. This is rather expensive to do, but it's the only way to be sure things are behaving as they should.