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I don’t really, really think that clojure is 750 times more dense than java. Probably F# can approach between 5 and 10 times more density than C# in the right c

• Jach 8y ago
  You're right that Clojure isn't 750 times more dense than Java in even the 99% case, I'm not trying to claim that. I probably should have used something more conservative to make my point (that dynamic languages will usually result in significantly less code for the same problems and that might itself cause suspicion of large projects entirely by dynamic language fans rather than take on the question directly of can their language scale to projects millions of lines big). The particular project I was thinking of in this case is Hibernate ORM, which somehow managed to weigh around 750k lines last I remember. It's a bit of a facetious comparison, I'll admit, to point to a few Clojure projects I know of that seem to solve the same core problem better in around 1.5k lines. Even if you agreed that they did, I think we'd both agree it was because of language features apart from dynamic typing (your own experience of two static languages differing by as much as 10x implies as much). When the problem domain is related to symbolic computing and metaprogramming, languages that support symbols and macros are going to have a huge advantage, especially when you start generating code you would have written by hand otherwise.