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What in particular makes you believe that a world that suffers the ills from climate change is a world not worth living in? I do imagine it making life more dif

What in particular makes you believe that a world that suffers the ills from climate change is a world not worth living in? I do imagine it making life more difficult, sure, but—life is already very difficult for very many people, and judging by suicide rates, most people decide they'd rather stay in the game rather than jump ship.

astura 8y ago
I can't speak for the GP, but I have two friends who are avoiding having children for similar/the same concerns. They believe climate change will cause mass famine which will kill off about half the population and essentially lead to the full breakdown of society, with the associated breakdown in law and order, the end of property rights, and money becoming worthless. I can't personally speak to the accuracy or these predictions, or how realistic these predictions are.
- nikkwong 8y ago
  Well, to put it in context, Soylent Green was written in 1973 and felt like a very real concern given the political and social unrest of the time. I tend to think that this is just a sign that humans like to think in terms of superlatives. I hope I'm right, and that society is able to get it's sh*t together given the likely upcoming tumult. I don't know, I feel that especially in more civilized western countries (Canada?—not the US :).), people tend to stay more united in the face of affliction and are therefore more likely to be able to ride out the storm. I guess it will depend on how badly things really end up breaking down.
- yesenadam 8y ago
  Apart from anything else, if enough people believe it will happen, it will happen, that's for sure. Predictions easily become self-fulfilling prophecies. Which is why hope isn't a luxury that can be casually tossed overboard like that. It is essential.
fersho311 8y ago
I'm still in the game, I'm not talking about giving up. I can put up a better fight and do more if I don't have to deal with children. Its better if I don't have children until I feel more optimistic that climate change can be a solved problem.

astura 8y ago

I can't speak for the GP, but I have two friends who are avoiding having children for similar/the same concerns. They believe climate change will cause mass famine which will kill off about half the population and essentially lead to the full breakdown of society, with the associated breakdown in law and order, the end of property rights, and money becoming worthless. I can't personally speak to the accuracy or these predictions, or how realistic these predictions are.

nikkwong 8y ago
Well, to put it in context, Soylent Green was written in 1973 and felt like a very real concern given the political and social unrest of the time. I tend to think that this is just a sign that humans like to think in terms of superlatives. I hope I'm right, and that society is able to get it's sh*t together given the likely upcoming tumult. I don't know, I feel that especially in more civilized western countries (Canada?—not the US :).), people tend to stay more united in the face of affliction and are therefore more likely to be able to ride out the storm. I guess it will depend on how badly things really end up breaking down.
yesenadam 8y ago
Apart from anything else, if enough people believe it will happen, it will happen, that's for sure. Predictions easily become self-fulfilling prophecies. Which is why hope isn't a luxury that can be casually tossed overboard like that. It is essential.

fersho311 8y ago

I'm still in the game, I'm not talking about giving up. I can put up a better fight and do more if I don't have to deal with children. Its better if I don't have children until I feel more optimistic that climate change can be a solved problem.