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Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. And as for harm to lungs – does anyone really think that combustion p

Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. And as for harm to lungs – does anyone really think that combustion products (regardless of what's burning) can not be harmful for human body?

tomjakubowski 8y ago
> otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. Just repeating an action a second time doesn't suggest an addiction... am I missing something here?
- mrlatinos 8y ago
  You're missing that there are plenty of people who want a scapegoat for their lack of personal responsibility, and plenty of people who will enable them because they're already biased against the scapegoat.
pfisch 8y ago
Addictive in the way any form of entertainment can be I guess. It isn’t physically addictive.
- function_seven 8y ago
  Physical addiction (as opposed to psychological) is rarely the one that worries people. It's not what keeps a drug user dependent for years as their lives unravel. If it was, then a simple detox would "cure" the addiction. We wouldn't have rehab programs and support groups, just hospital beds and observation for a week or two. The addiction that is hardest to kick is almost always the psychological one. The one that sticks around long after any trace of the substance has gone from your system, and long after any withdrawal symptoms have subsided. Sorry if I'm picking on your comment, but that phrase "isn't physically addictive" always strikes me as missing the point.
  - iliaznk 8y ago
    So true.
nv-vn 8y ago
A lot of stoners are convinced it reverses the damage or something because "THC cures cancer"
- shittyadmin 8y ago
  The largest studies to date have found no ties to lung cancer or COPD, however there's still other damage present which can take the form of reduced lung capacity, chronic bronchitis, etc. As for refuting the "THC cures cancer" thing, there's certain forms of testicular cancer which do show slightly increased risk of statistical significance. The lack of worse lung problems is somewhat surprising but I've seen speculation from doctors about other possible causes than a miracle cancer cure. I'm not much of a pot head, but my country is legalizing in a few weeks so I did some research - Dry leaf vaporizer is absolutely the way to go if you can afford it, full inhalation dose control and speed, no extra shit from flavorings or solvents, far less risk of those lung issues.
Nursie 8y ago
> Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. So is cheese then. And pens. And fairground rides. And, well, everything. I'm not disputing that it is addictive, but that reasoning doesn't work. Something can be useful or just enjoyable and people will repeat the experience without that necessarily telling us whether it's addictive.
iliaznk 8y ago
And by the way, being an occasional smoker myself, and rather a heavy smoker in the past, I know what I'm talking about, and I know the craving it gives you. Nevertheless I advocate legalisation and find it much less harmful than alcohol, for that matter.

tomjakubowski 8y ago

> otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. Just repeating an action a second time doesn't suggest an addiction... am I missing something here?

mrlatinos 8y ago
You're missing that there are plenty of people who want a scapegoat for their lack of personal responsibility, and plenty of people who will enable them because they're already biased against the scapegoat.

pfisch 8y ago

Addictive in the way any form of entertainment can be I guess. It isn’t physically addictive.

function_seven 8y ago
Physical addiction (as opposed to psychological) is rarely the one that worries people. It's not what keeps a drug user dependent for years as their lives unravel. If it was, then a simple detox would "cure" the addiction. We wouldn't have rehab programs and support groups, just hospital beds and observation for a week or two. The addiction that is hardest to kick is almost always the psychological one. The one that sticks around long after any trace of the substance has gone from your system, and long after any withdrawal symptoms have subsided. Sorry if I'm picking on your comment, but that phrase "isn't physically addictive" always strikes me as missing the point.
- iliaznk 8y ago
  So true.

nv-vn 8y ago

A lot of stoners are convinced it reverses the damage or something because "THC cures cancer"

shittyadmin 8y ago
The largest studies to date have found no ties to lung cancer or COPD, however there's still other damage present which can take the form of reduced lung capacity, chronic bronchitis, etc. As for refuting the "THC cures cancer" thing, there's certain forms of testicular cancer which do show slightly increased risk of statistical significance. The lack of worse lung problems is somewhat surprising but I've seen speculation from doctors about other possible causes than a miracle cancer cure. I'm not much of a pot head, but my country is legalizing in a few weeks so I did some research - Dry leaf vaporizer is absolutely the way to go if you can afford it, full inhalation dose control and speed, no extra shit from flavorings or solvents, far less risk of those lung issues.

Nursie 8y ago

> Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. So is cheese then. And pens. And fairground rides. And, well, everything. I'm not disputing that it is addictive, but that reasoning doesn't work. Something can be useful or just enjoyable and people will repeat the experience without that necessarily telling us whether it's addictive.

iliaznk 8y ago

And by the way, being an occasional smoker myself, and rather a heavy smoker in the past, I know what I'm talking about, and I know the craving it gives you. Nevertheless I advocate legalisation and find it much less harmful than alcohol, for that matter.